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"downhill" wrote in message
... But many of the comments in SR waxroom and other publications mention Mr Miller's partying most of the other athletes do not do it publicly. But when he made the drug comment earlier in the season he put on the bulls eye and walked out in front of a few FIS target shooters, anything to discredit the americans! I am planning to watch the interview, more comments to follow. Remember that it's the same show/network that tried to influence a presidential election with false documents = zero credibility. Maybe they should be kbs? |
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"pigo" wrote in message
... "Janet" wrote in message ... downhill wrote: Did you hear Bode is going to be on 60 minutes this Sunday? Is he going to talk about the article I read in the paper today where he thinks it's really cool to ski (and race) drunk? Janet The snips I've read have him talking about how he's done it, not how he "thinks it's cool". My bet is that Bode drunk is in more control than 100% of the borders and 80% of the skiers out there. Bode is not responsible for anyone else's behavior. Period. Still, it's a shame when role models, whether they want to be or not, promote negative behavior through their actions and words that will influence young malleable minds. In the adult world, I'm sure the moment will be truly uneventful, but the teens and twenty-somethings are probably going to process this moment for the season. I'm also sure that Bode is safer on skis or a board drunk than I am in a lift line sober! |
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"pigo" wrote in message
... "downhill" wrote in message ... But when you are the focus of the media glare and try to exploit it for your gain there are things as a role model for youths you do not want to come out. May be if you write a tell all book 30 years after the fact but it can be a sponsor & future project killer if you do it during your prime. I'm not disputing that. I'm just correcting what the agenda driven said. As far as role models are concerned, if the parents can't teach kids the difference, **** 'em. I think that just because he skis well he shouldn't be able to live his own life to make up for some retards poor parenting skills. But he also should be aware of marketing pressures that make negatively effect him (right or wrong). I am reading the Bill Johnson book and wondering if Bode used him as a role model? Bill is a cool guy. But I haven't seen him since the brain injury. Pigo, As a former teen and a current parent, I've learned that what influences my kids from middle school on is their peers and not their parents. We still have to teach by example, and our efforts will be rewarded later, but it's a fact that teens buy what their peers are selling before even considering what their parents are selling. See my other post, if you want, where I stated emphatically, that Bode is not responsible for anyone's behavior other than his own. It's his choice whether to serve as a positive role model, or not. |
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"Mary Malmros" wrote in message
... downhill wrote: Mary Malmros wrote: Hmm, that's about the third different spin I've heard on it. And kind of surprising, too. I mean, c'mon -- the World Cup mostly takes place in Europe, where as near as I can tell the drinking "age" is "tall enough to see over the bar," and where Bode got (besides his prize money) his weight in local wine when he won some race last year. I have a hard time believing the FIS is having people blow into balloons post-race, except if they're looking to decorate the party venue. I mean, it's _post_ race, and that is...uh...Miller time. Cleve finish! |
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Bryan wrote:
"Mary Malmros" wrote in message ... downhill wrote: Mary Malmros wrote: Hmm, that's about the third different spin I've heard on it. And kind of surprising, too. I mean, c'mon -- the World Cup mostly takes place in Europe, where as near as I can tell the drinking "age" is "tall enough to see over the bar," and where Bode got (besides his prize money) his weight in local wine when he won some race last year. I have a hard time believing the FIS is having people blow into balloons post-race, except if they're looking to decorate the party venue. I mean, it's _post_ race, and that is...uh...Miller time. Cleve finish! Not exactly original. But I mean, come on -- the reality is that Europe has a different culture WRT alcohol than the United States. Even if Bode raced every race ****faced, he wouldn't get pilloried in Europe because they don't care about people being ****faced like we do, and he wouldn't get pilloried in the United STates because people would say, "Who's Bode Miller?" In other words, a non-story about something that probably never happened. |
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The promo run for the news story was more exciting than the story itself.
They showed a bunch of his crashes and focused on how often he DNF's I heard a few different excerpts on WCBS radio, from he does not care about winning gold and the drunk episode was the race after he won the overall title. They showed him under the influence of last nights partying after the overall win. The video show's him a little shaky leaving the starting gate. But his answers were typical bode responses with no definitive answers michael |
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downhill wrote:
The promo run for the news story was more exciting than the story itself. They showed a bunch of his crashes and focused on how often he DNF's I heard a few different excerpts on WCBS radio, from he does not care about winning gold and the drunk episode was the race after he won the overall title. They showed him under the influence of last nights partying after the overall win. The video show's him a little shaky leaving the starting gate. But his answers were typical bode responses with no definitive answers Text is on the CBS website under 60 minutes; I've got the link around somewhere if anyone wants it and can't find it. |
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downhill wrote:
Janet wrote: downhill wrote: Did you hear Bode is going to be on 60 minutes this Sunday? Is he going to talk about the article I read in the paper today where he thinks it's really cool to ski (and race) drunk? Janet I think so.... What paper? Is there a url for the article? michael It was in the Star-Ledger (the paper is out of Newark, NJ - starledger.com). Unfortunately their web site is not very useful w/o a subscription. Supposedly one can search the 14-day archive w/o a subscription, but it doesn't find everything - I think they only really allow a sub-set of the archive to be searched. I typed in "bode miller" as the search and the only article that came up was something from Jan 1st about the Jets-Bills game.. go figure... If I can find the actual newspaper article, I can quote it here. (But I think it may already have gone with the recycling) Janet |
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Mary Malmros wrote:
downhill wrote: Mary Malmros wrote: Janet wrote: downhill wrote: Did you hear Bode is going to be on 60 minutes this Sunday? Is he going to talk about the article I read in the paper today where he thinks it's really cool to ski (and race) drunk? That's a pretty radical misrepresentation. listening to WCBS in NYC traffic they basically summed up the Sunday night story as he hoped he would not get disqualified in post race tech for being drunk. Hmm, that's about the third different spin I've heard on it. And kind of surprising, too. I mean, c'mon -- the World Cup mostly takes place in Europe, where as near as I can tell the drinking "age" is "tall enough to see over the bar," and where Bode got (besides his prize money) his weight in local wine when he won some race last year. I have a hard time believing the FIS is having people blow into balloons post-race, except if they're looking to decorate the party venue. I mean, it's _post_ race, and that is...uh...Miller time. The article I read it wasn't about a post-race party. If they want to party *after* the race, that's thier perogative. But in the article, he was *racing* drunk, not getting drunk at a post-race party. And the way it was written (maybe it was a mis-representation), Bode thought it was cool to race drunk. But the story in Boston Globe was he was shocked that it was being presented that way. He has failed to realize how the media will distort from his meaning every statement he makes. You repeat the shock statements and forget to air the clarifying statements. To be fair, this didn't happen for the past three years, because between Olympic years, ski racing is invisible in the USA. Now the stiffs at the major media sports desks are all waking up and saying, "Uhhh, okay, anyone wearing the red white and blue gonna win anything in this one? Okay let's go dig up something interesting about 'em." So I guess it is quite sudden for him. |
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"Mary Malmros" wrote in message
... Hmm, that's about the third different spin I've heard on it. And kind of surprising, too. I mean, c'mon -- the World Cup mostly takes place in Europe, where as near as I can tell the drinking "age" is "tall enough to see over the bar," and where Bode got (besides his prize money) his weight in local wine when he won some race last year. I have a hard time believing the FIS is having people blow into balloons post-race, except if they're looking to decorate the party venue. I mean, it's _post_ race, and that is...uh...Miller time. Cleve finish! Not exactly original. But I mean, come on -- the reality is that Europe has a different culture WRT alcohol than the United States. Even if Bode raced every race ****faced, he wouldn't get pilloried in Europe because they don't care about people being ****faced like we do, and he wouldn't get pilloried in the United STates because people would say, "Who's Bode Miller?" In other words, a non-story about something that probably never happened. You know what's weird? The last time I was in Europe, they were starting to ask for ID's. I'm not sure what age they were checking for. I just noticed it. |
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