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More on going down a hill: among kids in my small town ability to XC
ski was determined by how crasy of a hill you could go straight down - nobody cared about making 10K laps! Anyway, the way we learned to go down a scary hill - climb the hill 25% up - ski down (easy). Then climb up some more - ski down - until you gradually reached the top. Then - build a trampoline at the end, and that's where the fun began |
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LOL!
June wrote in message oups.com... More on going down a hill: among kids in my small town ability to XC ski was determined by how crasy of a hill you could go straight down - nobody cared about making 10K laps! Anyway, the way we learned to go down a scary hill - climb the hill 25% up - ski down (easy). Then climb up some more - ski down - until you gradually reached the top. Then - build a trampoline at the end, and that's where the fun began |
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"JCZ" wrote in message ... Uh uh...... This trail has two sets of tracks -- one set going in each direction, and a guy came down that hill just after I walked UP it to see what was on the other side. (I walked not on the trail but next to it, so as not to wreck it.) I didn't think to watch him to see what he did at the bottom where all the trails converge and there were a bunch of people. It dawned on me later that it seemed kind of a weird ending to a steep-ish hill. Thanks Jeff for the tips on stopping. I like that lift one ski out of track and angle it or side scrubbing. You're right about the poles forward thing. I usually just do that when I'm easing down a hill that I don't want to build up speed on because maybe there's someone in front of me not going fast enough or something like that. But doing it when going fast would be kind of dumb. I like the idea of the dragging baskets, too. Hey! Thanks so much. [snip] Just my little two penny's worth... (and I am a complete beginner - only a week's experience under my belt which I've just come back from, but I did just get the hang of stopping going downhill at the end!) One thing I found was that unless I controlled the downhill from the start of the descent by lifting one ski out of the track and keeping the speed down by ploughing that ski, I didn't stand a chance... I found it easier to start with the ski out, keep it slow, maybe put the ski back in tentatively for a few metres etc... But starting downhill with both skis in the track built up too much speed for me to do anything except wipe myself out to save the others in front of me! gareth... |
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Sounds wise, Gareth.
June "Gareth Crawshaw" wrote in message ... "JCZ" wrote in message ... Uh uh...... This trail has two sets of tracks -- one set going in each direction, and a guy came down that hill just after I walked UP it to see what was on the other side. (I walked not on the trail but next to it, so as not to wreck it.) I didn't think to watch him to see what he did at the bottom where all the trails converge and there were a bunch of people. It dawned on me later that it seemed kind of a weird ending to a steep-ish hill. Thanks Jeff for the tips on stopping. I like that lift one ski out of track and angle it or side scrubbing. You're right about the poles forward thing. I usually just do that when I'm easing down a hill that I don't want to build up speed on because maybe there's someone in front of me not going fast enough or something like that. But doing it when going fast would be kind of dumb. I like the idea of the dragging baskets, too. Hey! Thanks so much. [snip] Just my little two penny's worth... (and I am a complete beginner - only a week's experience under my belt which I've just come back from, but I did just get the hang of stopping going downhill at the end!) One thing I found was that unless I controlled the downhill from the start of the descent by lifting one ski out of the track and keeping the speed down by ploughing that ski, I didn't stand a chance... I found it easier to start with the ski out, keep it slow, maybe put the ski back in tentatively for a few metres etc... But starting downhill with both skis in the track built up too much speed for me to do anything except wipe myself out to save the others in front of me! gareth... |
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Strange. Noone mentioned the other solution : take your skis off and
walk down... JCZ wrote: Finally I'm bored with the easy trails. Saturday I tried the medium trails, and I did just fine -- lots of nice rolling up and down hills. I had no problems whatsoever, but then I saw a rather steep hill leading up to the difficult trail. I was tempted to try it, but had I come DOWN that hill, it would've been scary because it ended at what looked like a kind of big intersection of trails with benches and maps and lots of people. Say I was on this trail, and I'm coming down.....(classic). How do I stop when I need to? Up to this point, I've tried "snowplowing" which doesn't work when in tracks, I've tried putting my poles kind of forward to try and get some resistance, and I've tried turning my boots outward to kind of dig into the tracks to slow down, but none of them really work that well, and I imagine they don't work at all well when going kind of fast. Can anyone give me a suggestion? Thanks. June |
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Well, I had thought of that but that's not my question. I wanted to
know how to SKI down the hill and control speed. I got some excellent answers, too. June "Mark" wrote in message . .. Strange. Noone mentioned the other solution : take your skis off and walk down... JCZ wrote: Finally I'm bored with the easy trails. Saturday I tried the medium trails, and I did just fine -- lots of nice rolling up and down hills. I had no problems whatsoever, but then I saw a rather steep hill leading up to the difficult trail. I was tempted to try it, but had I come DOWN that hill, it would've been scary because it ended at what looked like a kind of big intersection of trails with benches and maps and lots of people. Say I was on this trail, and I'm coming down.....(classic). How do I stop when I need to? Up to this point, I've tried "snowplowing" which doesn't work when in tracks, I've tried putting my poles kind of forward to try and get some resistance, and I've tried turning my boots outward to kind of dig into the tracks to slow down, but none of them really work that well, and I imagine they don't work at all well when going kind of fast. Can anyone give me a suggestion? Thanks. June |
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Assume a full tuck. At intersection, rise up a little and do a stylish
telemark turn/stop. Upon stop, remove stocking cap, face into sunlight, shake out hair (men or women) and smile big. It's always worked for me. Cam |
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Mark wrote:
...Say I was on this trail, and I'm coming down.....(classic). How do I stop when I need to? ...Can anyone give me a suggestion? Thanks. June Dear Mark or June of whomever... Yes, you are right that you can not slow down in the tracks. So, you must get out of the tracks. Things you can do, with the "fastest ways to slow down" listed first. Practice each one. I am not kidding. Practice getting in and out of the tracks on the flat and also gradual downhills first. Then, as far as ways to slow down... 1. Sit down sideways with your arms up in the air to keep from sitting on your poles. This is a technique to grow out of as soon as possible. 2. Learn to snowplow with a big space between your legs. Practice different amonts of edging and leg space. Make your back like a scaredy cat and hunch it up for stability. 3. Learn to snowplow just a little so you are now doing something acceptable and not too beginner-y (as in #1-2). 4. Learn that you really love speed and just tuck in the tracks. If you get freaked out stick one leg out into a bit of a snowplow to scrub off some speed and then get your foot back in the track when you have regained your composure. If you practice you will get better. When practicing #1 and 2 make sure nobody who really knows how to ski is behind you, because you don't want to break their equipment or body by being squirrely. Enjoy! |
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If you scream bloody murder, I mean from the gut like you're going to
die kind of scream, and look just a little out of control, everyone at the bottom of the hill will move quickly out of the way. I learned this one when I was downhill skiing at Jackson Hole, and I hit the final section before a chairlift too fast for conditions. When my skis were all over the place, the liftline parted like the red sea. Jay Wenner |
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LOL! Good point.
June "Bjorn A. Payne Diaz" wrote in message oups.com... If you scream bloody murder, I mean from the gut like you're going to die kind of scream, and look just a little out of control, everyone at the bottom of the hill will move quickly out of the way. I learned this one when I was downhill skiing at Jackson Hole, and I hit the final section before a chairlift too fast for conditions. When my skis were all over the place, the liftline parted like the red sea. Jay Wenner |
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