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Champ wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:59:00 -0000, "MoonMan" wrote: But I can't race! Er, this whole sub-thread is about a ski racer not wearing a helmet! In the UK at least in the eastern region, Helmets are required for racing. at FIS level they are not required for slalom, yet. Originally we introduced the requirement to stop teenage boys saying "but xxx doesn't wear one so why should I?" but now it's been taken ut of our hands, the insurance companies require it! So, your entire contribution to this thread is valueless, then. Why? Chris *:-) |
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:23:51 -0000, "MoonMan"
wrote: Champ wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:59:00 -0000, "MoonMan" wrote: But I can't race! Er, this whole sub-thread is about a ski racer not wearing a helmet! In the UK at least in the eastern region, Helmets are required for racing. at FIS level they are not required for slalom, yet. Originally we introduced the requirement to stop teenage boys saying "but xxx doesn't wear one so why should I?" but now it's been taken ut of our hands, the insurance companies require it! So, your entire contribution to this thread is valueless, then. Why? Hmmm. You're starting to look troll-like -- Champ |
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In message , MoonMan
writes In the UK at least in the eastern region, Helmets are required for racing. at FIS level they are not required for slalom, yet. Originally we introduced the requirement to stop teenage boys saying "but xxx doesn't wear one so why should I?" but now it's been taken ut of our hands, the insurance companies require it! AFAIAA it is only compulsory for downhill. I'm not sure about Super G but you can still do GS and slalom without a helmet. -- Pete Devlin [{//////news03//////at\\\\\secondrow/////co\\\\\uk}] "Mind the oranges Marlon!" |
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pete devlin wrote:
In message , MoonMan writes In the UK at least in the eastern region, Helmets are required for racing. at FIS level they are not required for slalom, yet. Originally we introduced the requirement to stop teenage boys saying "but xxx doesn't wear one so why should I?" but now it's been taken ut of our hands, the insurance companies require it! AFAIAA it is only compulsory for downhill. I'm not sure about Super G but you can still do GS and slalom without a helmet. I'm waiting for a PC to install windows, so I checked the FIS rules. They are as follows Downhill - Helmets Mandatory for all Super-G - Helmets mandatory for all GS - Helmets mandatory for children, Juniors and Masters Slalom - no regulation (apart from design and size of sponsors logos) These where the 2004 rules from The FIS Website. -- Chris *:-) Downhill Good, Uphill BAD! www.suffolkvikings.org.uk |
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Champ wrote in
: On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:09:25 -0600, D wrote: Champ wrote: That's cos yanks are weenies :-) Funny, I've only been in two wrecks and one was at Kirkwood, first run of the day by a skier taking a shortcut on my blind side. I was glad I had the helmet even if they make you look like a dork. Do you ride moguls? I suppose its a bit differnt out west, and I have noticed that far fewer wear them, but here in the East(ice) coast, cement has more give than some of the bumps. Took a header on a 2x black a few years back, again glad for the helmet. Anyways.. maybe somebody can comment on this.. am missing an ear flap and was checking in on one of the local shops today. I'm fairly sure the guy was just trying to sell me on a new helmet, but he was claiming that all (bike, ski, etc) need to be replaced every 3 yrs as the foam core loses its shock absorbtion ability. Sounds bogus to me as the helmet is pretty well a sealed thing but I've no real clue. |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:42:21 -0000, "Mike M. Miskulin"
wrote: Anyways.. maybe somebody can comment on this.. am missing an ear flap and was checking in on one of the local shops today. I'm fairly sure the guy was just trying to sell me on a new helmet, but he was claiming that all (bike, ski, etc) need to be replaced every 3 yrs as the foam core loses its shock absorbtion ability. Sounds bogus to me as the helmet is pretty well a sealed thing but I've no real clue. It's an often-quoted (by the manufacturers) guideline for motorcycle helmets, although I think they say five years, not three. The rational given is that as well as the foam core compressing (which definitely does happen, leading to a looser fit) exposure to UV can affect the composition of the shell over time as well. Additionally (with m/c helmets) one is advised to junk them after anything like a serious knock, as again the foam may have deformed, as it's designed to, around the impact site, which will not be visible to the naked eye, in addition ot potential damage to the shell itself. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
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Ace wrote in
: On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:42:21 -0000, "Mike M. Miskulin" wrote: Additionally (with m/c helmets) one is advised to junk them after anything like a serious knock, as again the foam may have deformed, as it's designed to, around the impact site, which will not be visible to the naked eye, in addition ot potential damage to the shell itself. Interesting.. well I know of at least 2 or 3 places that probably have a good ding in them then! Perhaps I'll take a spin thru the store and see whats around and how many $. Then again, I can probably wait till next year as I'm in Vermont |
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"Champ" wrote in message ... On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:33:45 -0000, "Séan" wrote: Lets be sensible for a moment..... The potential for serious injury, and I'm talking about to your childs brain, is greatly increased whilst skiing, unlike walking to the shops! Its not about 'litigtion' or what she might do to herself, its all the other idiots skiing on the edge of control and about to lose it at the next bump in the snow. We all know that it is folly to let your child ride a bike without a helmet for the same reason. Boy this stuff makes me mad! One of the most important things about skiing/snowboarding is being out in such a fantastic environment, and experiencing it to the full. Part of this is being aware of the dangers of the environment, too. Now, the last thing I want to do is put some glassfibre between me and that experience. And, as I know very well from riding and racing motorcycles, putting on a helmet will cause some risk-compensation behaviour. Far better to teach the kids that skiing is a potentially dangerous activity, and act accordingly. And - I really can't understand how generations of kids used to cycle to school without a helmet (me included), but now "we all know it is folly to let your child ride a bike without a helmet". I know no such thing. -- Champ You had better pop a few tranquilisers before reading this http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...439229,00.html |
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Don't worry, there is no way on earth that Italian skiers will comply
en-masse with a helmet law. (FTAOD: I like Italy and Italians.) This quote from the article made me laugh: "Problems arise because some people on the slopes are wearing protection and others are not." Er, no. The problem is that people ski beyond their ability on crowded pistes and do not add a sufficient safety-margin when passing other skiers. Sammy |
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