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Hey! The world cup started this weekend, with nice skiing (and weather!)
on saturday and relays (in not so nice weather) yesterday. From my viewpoint the main items of interest was a) Germany is doing very well these days, their national TV sent a 50-man (!) crew to cover the NRK-produced video. :-) b) Italy is still strong. c) Sweden missed either the wax or their form on saturday, and dropped off the pace on the last leg of the relay. d) Marit Bjørgan showed that it helps to be a world champion in the sprints when you want to win a relay. Anyway, I bet our friends with the MPEG encoders will soon have you all drooling in fron of your PCs. :-) Terje -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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Terje Mathisen wrote:
Hey! The world cup started this weekend, with nice skiing (and weather!) on saturday and relays (in not so nice weather) yesterday. The British commentators on Eurosport both have Biathlon background and observed that Norway have given their Biathlon racers the chance to take part in XC races. As this seems a new concept does anyone know why this happened. I can understand that Bi racers would welcome on snow racing prior to their season starting, but surely the XC squads need their race time on snow now. One other thing, several racers were noticed using longer length poles. Was this just for this race or is this a trend. It seems in line with our thread this summer on the new skate poling techniques, hands shoulder height and pole plants wayy back behind the feet. Mike PS Zorzi wasnt racing, the commentators mentioned him being angry with his National Federation. Anyone know the reason why? Has he been a bad boy? |
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taywood wrote:
Terje Mathisen wrote: Hey! The world cup started this weekend, with nice skiing (and weather!) on saturday and relays (in not so nice weather) yesterday. The British commentators on Eurosport both have Biathlon background and observed that Norway have given their Biathlon racers the chance to take part in XC races. It really isn't a matter of 'Norway giving Bi racers the chance', it is simply that those biathlon racers have started in the regular (skate) qualification race(s), and beaten most of the XC squad. Kristen Skjeldal, who was dropped from the XC team before this season did the same, and qualified the same way. As this seems a new concept does anyone know why this happened. I can understand that Bi racers would welcome on snow racing prior to their season starting, but surely the XC squads need their race time on snow now. They sure do, but the bi racers are so popular currently that there's absolutely no way the XC coaches can bypass them when they do qualify. They've tried that in previous years, and they got hung up to dry in all the tabloid newspapers, as well as on NRK TV. It probably helps that the main XC commentator, Kjell Kristian Rike, has a background as a competition shooter, and really do prefer Biathlon. He's been extolling the skating virtues of the best biathlon racers for years and years now, and during the last couple of seasons, he's even been right. Terje -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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Norway had and I repeat had great skaters in Bjorn Daehlie, Thomas
Alsgaard and a younger Kristian Skjeldal. I'm not sure how much coahing had to do with them being fast. Tor Arne Hetland is a great and I repeat great skater but he needs to figure out what race distance he wants to specialize in. I think he should concentrate less on sprints which he is already great at, and concentrate on the longer distances so he can help Norway in the Relay and maybe get a skiathlon podium finish or mass start skate podium etc. Tore Ruud Hofstad seems to be picking up where the others left off. Anyway, what I'm getting at, Norway's XC Team had no reason to worry about skating until the retirements started happening. Simplified response, perhaps, but I don't think they were in panic mode. At the same time, the biathletes perfected their skating technique because, well, they skate in biathlon... I think more emphasis will be put on skating as the Norwegian women's program did the last couple of seasons when they hired Egil Kristiansen. Jay Tegeder "Keep training, lycra never lies!" JT "taywood" wrote in message ... Terje Mathisen wrote: Hey! The world cup started this weekend, with nice skiing (and weather!) on saturday and relays (in not so nice weather) yesterday. The British commentators on Eurosport both have Biathlon background and observed that Norway have given their Biathlon racers the chance to take part in XC races. As this seems a new concept does anyone know why this happened. I can understand that Bi racers would welcome on snow racing prior to their season starting, but surely the XC squads need their race time on snow now. One other thing, several racers were noticed using longer length poles. Was this just for this race or is this a trend. It seems in line with our thread this summer on the new skate poling techniques, hands shoulder height and pole plants wayy back behind the feet. Mike PS Zorzi wasnt racing, the commentators mentioned him being angry with his National Federation. Anyone know the reason why? Has he been a bad boy? |
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Terje Mathisen wrote:
taywood wrote: Terje Mathisen wrote: Hey! The world cup started this weekend, with nice skiing (and weather!) on saturday and relays (in not so nice weather) yesterday. The British commentators on Eurosport both have Biathlon background and observed that Norway have given their Biathlon racers the chance to take part in XC races. It really isn't a matter of 'Norway giving Bi racers the chance', it is simply that those biathlon racers have started in the regular (skate) qualification race(s), and beaten most of the XC squad. Kristen Skjeldal, who was dropped from the XC team before this season did the same, and qualified the same way. Thanks. It seems strange to me when the two sports have different governing bodies and different race calendars and venues. Its got to be good for XC ski racing but I cant help wondering how people would feel if, at the end of the season, a racer lost the World title by the same number of points his Biathlon friend took in the opening races which he could perhaps have gained. Just another what if !! Mike |
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taywood wrote:
Its got to be good for XC ski racing but I cant help wondering how people would feel if, at the end of the season, a racer lost the World title by the same number of points his Biathlon friend took in the opening races which he could perhaps have gained. Just another what if !! No way: If you're going to in the running for the overall title, you will most certainly be among the best in the regular XC team all year. Besides, when the biathlon world cup starts, these racers will be too buzy doing their main thing. :-) Terje -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:14:47 -0000, "taywood"
wrote: I cant help wondering how people would feel if, at the end of the season, a racer lost the World title by the same number of points his Biathlon friend took in the opening races which he could perhaps have gained. I'd think that skier should have gone faster if he/she wanted to win the World Cup. It's about speed and racing, after all. JT ******************************************* NB: reply-to address is munged Visit http://www.jt10000.com ******************************************* |
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taywood wrote:
The British commentators on Eurosport both have Biathlon background and observed that Norway have given their Biathlon racers the chance to take part in XC races. I was watching those races on English Eurosport and even though I know Mike Dixon (second commentator on English Eurosport) personally, and he's nice guy, especially for going for a beer I switched to German Eurosport after few mins. Half of last 10km in men relay was about how great Bjorndalen is, how perfect technique he has etc etc. Basicaly how he will kick everyones ass in that race. I'm not saying he's not good or anything, after all, I would agree that, with a bit of luck in SLC, he is best biathlete ever, but it still went on my nerves enough to switch to German. And even though I would understand for Bjorndalen to go do this things, but there was also Berger, Anderssen, and Andreassen. Noone of those 3 ever did anything so great, compared to Bjorndalen that they could say "ok I did everything in biathlon so now I will go to kick some xc guys". It's my personal opinion, but they should stay in biathlon and first win everything there. Another thing is to think they can win XC world cup easily (most cyclist which I know here are thinking like that too... one month training and they can win our national championship easily because, even though most of people don't consider this as option, it's not about having "training" race before their WC, but to show those XC guys they suck. PS Zorzi wasnt racing, the commentators mentioned him being angry with his National Federation. Anyone know the reason why? Has he been a bad boy? He never was really good boy He wasn't when I was still there and somehow I don't think he changed much And don't understand me wrong. With "not good boy" I don't mean he's annoying or something. He's cool but sometimes too cool for some people on top of federation -- Primoz Support - IP/VoIP Connectivity & Routing ------------------------------------------------------------------- Primoz Jeroncic tel: +386 1 562 31 40 | Borovec 2 fax: +386 1 562 18 55 | 1 + 1 = 3 1236 Trzin | for larger values of 1 Slovenija http://www.softnet.si/primoz ------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Primoz,
I'm glad to see your post. Your insiders insight was always appreciated. John OC Primoz Jeroncic wrote in message ... taywood wrote: The British commentators on Eurosport both have Biathlon background and observed that Norway have given their Biathlon racers the chance to take part in XC races. I was watching those races on English Eurosport and even though I know Mike Dixon (second commentator on English Eurosport) personally, and he's nice guy, especially for going for a beer I switched to German Eurosport after few mins. Half of last 10km in men relay was about how great Bjorndalen is, how perfect technique he has etc etc. Basicaly how he will kick everyones ass in that race. I'm not saying he's not good or anything, after all, I would agree that, with a bit of luck in SLC, he is best biathlete ever, but it still went on my nerves enough to switch to German. And even though I would understand for Bjorndalen to go do this things, but there was also Berger, Anderssen, and Andreassen. Noone of those 3 ever did anything so great, compared to Bjorndalen that they could say "ok I did everything in biathlon so now I will go to kick some xc guys". It's my personal opinion, but they should stay in biathlon and first win everything there. Another thing is to think they can win XC world cup easily (most cyclist which I know here are thinking like that too... one month training and they can win our national championship easily because, even though most of people don't consider this as option, it's not about having "training" race before their WC, but to show those XC guys they suck. PS Zorzi wasnt racing, the commentators mentioned him being angry with his National Federation. Anyone know the reason why? Has he been a bad boy? He never was really good boy He wasn't when I was still there and somehow I don't think he changed much And don't understand me wrong. With "not good boy" I don't mean he's annoying or something. He's cool but sometimes too cool for some people on top of federation -- Primoz Support - IP/VoIP Connectivity & Routing ------------------------------------------------------------------- Primoz Jeroncic tel: +386 1 562 31 40 | Borovec 2 fax: +386 1 562 18 55 | 1 + 1 = 3 1236 Trzin | for larger values of 1 Slovenija http://www.softnet.si/primoz ------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Primoz Jeroncic wrote:
taywood wrote: The British commentators on Eurosport both have Biathlon background and observed that Norway have given their Biathlon racers the chance to take part in XC races. I was watching those races on English Eurosport and even though I know Mike Dixon (second commentator on English Eurosport) personally, and he's nice guy, especially for going for a beer I switched to German Eurosport after few mins. Half of last 10km in men relay was about how great Bjorndalen is, how perfect technique he has etc etc. Basicaly how he will kick everyones ass in that race. I'm not saying he's not good or anything, after all, I would agree that, with a bit of luck in SLC, he is best biathlete ever, but it still went on my nerves enough to switch to German. And even though I would understand for Bjorndalen to go do this things, but there was also Berger, Anderssen, and Andreassen. Noone of those 3 ever did anything so great, compared to Bjorndalen that they could say "ok I did everything in biathlon so now I will go to kick some xc guys". When we are on the subject commentators i have to say that the commentators on "the xc-ski channel" NRK is very good and have a broad knowlage of the athletes from every country. And in the contrary to many peoples belief they aren't so nationalistic as one could think, commentating on theire own national channel. -- Forward in all directions Janne G |
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