Hunter Mountain

lal_truckee wrote:
All that aside, there's not much NASTAR out here, and while there is a
lot of USSA racing, but it's the steep and the deep that keep people
skiing.

Well there is a little nastar with some devoted racers.

Tell me if this sounds cost effective.
Hunter dumped NASTAR for the cost. But they went out and bought a
automated timing system to use on the same trail. This will be free and
not manned. This appears to save money and a non watched race course
will be a hazard in about a couple of hours.

On 12/17/13 7:22 PM, downhill wrote:
lal_truckee wrote:
All that aside, there's not much NASTAR out here, and while there is a
lot of USSA racing, but it's the steep and the deep that keep people
skiing.

Well there is a little nastar with some devoted racers.

Tell me if this sounds cost effective.
Hunter dumped NASTAR for the cost. But they went out and bought a
automated timing system to use on the same trail. This will be free and
not manned. This appears to save money and a non watched race course
will be a hazard in about a couple of hours.

No pace-setter means a different kind of racing. Compete against yourself.

Presumably the former pacesetter still works for the mtn, so no direct
savings. Still need to groom the course nightly, set the course with
breakaway gates, and occasionally reset gates. Probably at least one mtn
person should be assigned IMO.

We used to have coin-op side-by-side courses regularly; gone for
decades. Was a good way to work on specific skills.

We've got Tahoe League, High School, Recreational, USSA, FIS, Masters -
maybe other - training courses set on steeper terrain for advanced
levels daily and Masters/minor leaguer age groups several times a week.
They never train on each other's course, naturally. Plus regular races
when 8-9 teams descend on the mountain consuming much slope.

I like it.

On 12/18/2013 11:17 AM, lal_truckee wrote:

We've got Tahoe League, High School, Recreational, USSA, FIS, Masters -
maybe other - training courses set on steeper terrain for advanced
levels daily and Masters/minor leaguer age groups several times a week.
They never train on each other's course, naturally. Plus regular races
when 8-9 teams descend on the mountain consuming much slope.

I like it.

Just out of curiosity, do you still ski mostly Alpine or do you get over
to Squaw now that they share a pass?

And has the shared pass changed the vibe at Alpine with more Squaw-like
clientelle?


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//Walt

On 12/18/13 12:21 PM, Walt wrote:
Just out of curiosity, do you still ski mostly Alpine or do you get over
to Squaw now that they share a pass?

And has the shared pass changed the vibe at Alpine with more Squaw-like
clientelle?

Mostly Alpine - Squaw only if friends really really want to ski Squaw.

Initially a bit of over-training of the staff changing them from helpful
acquaintances and often friends to automated pandering "hosts" but that
calmed down. Squawlies in general haven't figured out Alpine has better
snow (but the Squaw race team has - they're at Alpine early and late
season each year.) Some additional traffic wasting the fresh on pow
days, but they leave before the treasures open. Still lots of old
friends on the slopes, in the locker room, on the patrol.

But it's slowing changing from a skier's mountain to a corporation's
amusement park - inevitable. I find comfort that, as the corporations
are killing downhill skiing, global warming will bankrupt some of them.
Well deserved. Hope the officers and stockholders lose their retirement.

On the subject of the inevitable demise of real lift served skiing, have
you read Hal Clifford's book "Downhill Slide" subtitled "Why the
Corporate Ski Industry is Bad for Skiing, Ski Towns, and the
Environment." Excellent study.

downhill wrote:
Hunter Mountain Gives up NASTAR

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/141/3...r-this-season/



Think somebody stuck a fork in traditional ski racing!
Only 87 protests against Hunters decision to dump NASTAR, that is up 3
from a month ago. Way to go.
Of course with the lack of snow here there has been more cancellations
than races.

On Thursday, January 16, 2014 6:55:03 AM UTC-7, downhill wrote:
downhill wrote:

Hunter Mountain Gives up NASTAR



http://www.thepetitionsite.com/141/3...r-this-season/


Just go skiing instead.

pigo wrote:
On Thursday, January 16, 2014 6:55:03 AM UTC-7, downhill wrote:
downhill wrote:

Hunter Mountain Gives up NASTAR



http://www.thepetitionsite.com/141/3...r-this-season/


Just go skiing instead.

Suggested by the person who quit skiing and &
only posts crap about golf, extreme political views and the loon.....
good advice So why do you not take it?

On Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:38:03 AM UTC-7, downhill wrote:

Suggested by the person who quit skiing and &
only posts crap about golf,

And yet has skied more days, more vertical and powder than you will ever dream of. Lot's of people have several interests, sorry about you and trunky that don't.

extreme political views and the loon.....
good advice

Extreme to socialist, nanny state, losers? I'm for freedom. Why if you are so interested in giving your money away for things do you insist that I do to? I am not trying to stop you. Though I doubt that your lifestyle is constricted in any way by the number of people that you feed and provide health care. Oh, and btw, forcing (poor) insurance on someone is not _health care_.

So why do you not take it?

Once again. The few days I do ski this year will be so far superior to anything you've ever experienced that it's apples and oranges. Hard to think about sitting in 80+ in Thailand though. Visited some Khmer Ruins today, a Banyon tree that covers about an acre and had some really great food (but that's everyday). The trouble in Bangkok is to the south a couple of hours so no effect until we head to the airport in a week or so.