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Old February 1st 05, 10:15 PM
Sue
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In message , Florian Anwander
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For most of the skiers it is difficult to ski in ungroomed, deep snow.
For most of the snowboarders it is technically easier(!) to ski deep
snow than on hard pistes.


We had two low intermediate snowboarders in a group of mostly low
intermediate skiers. They were not finding it easier to ride in deep
snow than the skiers were.

There was a clear correlation between uselessness on a mountain bike and
uselessness on snowtools.

It's notorious that intrepid people learn risky skills faster; I'm
suggesting that snowboards are not inherently easier to learn, but that
when they were new they attracted risk-seekers who learn fast and then
endanger themselves.

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Old February 2nd 05, 10:09 AM
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:15:17 +0000, Sue wrote:

In message , Florian Anwander
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For most of the skiers it is difficult to ski in ungroomed, deep snow.
For most of the snowboarders it is technically easier(!) to ski deep
snow than on hard pistes.


We had two low intermediate snowboarders in a group of mostly low
intermediate skiers. They were not finding it easier to ride in deep
snow than the skiers were.


I remember my first day in powder on a snowboard - I spent a *lot* of
time digging myself out. Then, on the second day, I "got it", and
never looked back.

There was a clear correlation between uselessness on a mountain bike and
uselessness on snowtools.


heh.

It's notorious that intrepid people learn risky skills faster; I'm
suggesting that snowboards are not inherently easier to learn, but that
when they were new they attracted risk-seekers who learn fast and then
endanger themselves.


This is an important point too. And, there's the demographic factor,
which, while mellowing (I'm over 40, and have only ever snowboarded),
is still there (mind you, in the US last month I saw lots of older
guys on boards and gung ho kids on skis).
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Old February 2nd 05, 05:44 PM
Florian Anwander
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Hi Sammy

It seems that level 5 covers a very wide range of conditions (from just
above level 4 to whole villages being at risk e.g. Galtur/Montroc). Do
ski areas *ever* open when there is a level 5 warning? That should be
what 5 means - stay at home. Otherwise we'd need a level 6.

Level 5 is very(!) seldom (perhaps one day a year). I was threetimes in
a resort while level five was given. Two times the resort was closed.

Today in Bavaria we have level 4 and I know at least three resorts, who
did not open the lifts due the avalanche risk today.

Florian

 




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