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  #181  
Old May 11th 08, 04:55 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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"Bob F" wrote in message


Well, you need to tell those million people who are about to lose
their houses about it.


How is it President Bush's fault that those "million people" bought
houses or took out loans that they could not afford?

============================== (frickin google posters!)

The credit problem is not the cause of the coming recession, its a
symptom. The cause is President Bush. He is spending however many
trillion dollars you don't have to fight a war there was no need for
while ignoring fundamental issues at home which were his job to deal
with. You can't do that for 5 years and not expect some consequence.

==============================

It's right there
on the paper that the payment might (will) go up. I ALWAYS get 30 yr.
fixed (if I don't pay cash) . For years these people have been making
1/2 the payment I have for the same amount of money and smirking at ME
for being the putz and paying too much. Well, it's time to take their
medicine. I should be allowed to buy their house in a fire sale now or
get a refund on my payments.

==============================

You still build houses for a living, don't you? How difficult would it be
to calculate how many houses you would NOT have built in the last 5 years
if everybody who bought a house was required to meet those conditions?
Reasonable access to credit helps to drive the economy. You are
absolutely correct, there are always risks involved, but if GWB had his
priorities in order 5 years ago, the econmy would have been more than
resilient enough to weather this storm. Instead, its crippled by his
hand.


I suspect that if the Bush justice dept had been watching over the actions
of lenders a bit better, a lot of people wouldn't have been caught up in
this, because they never would have gotten the loans. Lenders were pretty
sloppy about who they gave loans to. Some neighbors of mine refused to
follow through on their re-finance when they went to sign the final
papers, after seeing the fabrications the lender make to their financial
story to make the loan look acceptable.


Thats true. And I wouldn't claim for a minute that its not A problem. But
its not THE problem. If Bush hadn't wasted several (i'm still too lazy to
look up the exact number.) trillion dollars and climbing, with no end in
sight, the credit crunch would be a significantly smaller blip on the
screen.


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  #182  
Old May 11th 08, 04:56 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
Harry Weiner
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On Sun, 11 May 2008 08:01:01 -0700 (PDT), taichiskiing
wrote this crap:

two enemies, Sadam Hussein/Iraq and Osama bin Laden/Al Qaeda that it
fostered to power during the process/Cold War.


Have you been drinking? This makes no sense.


No, they don't make sense, but they are historical facts.



"You are insane. get help." What historical facts? You make no
sense.


A good fighter does not fight in rage.


Tell that to Mike Tyson.


Actually, Mike Tyson may tell you that as well.


My point. Thank you.


What's your point? Mike Tyson fights in rage?


He bit off an opponent's ear in a rage.


Does Master Bush take care his people/country?


Absolutely.


Well, you need to tell those million people who are about to lose
their houses about it.


That's not his problem. When you buy a house, you should read what
you are signing.

It's always a hard life. But victory, honor, and glory goes to the
winner.


Guess it is a hard life for you.


Let's see how I spent the weekend. Saturday morning, I went to the
yacht club, and installed a wide-screen, flat panel, LCD, HD TV, on my
yacht. Then I watched a hockey playoff game, from a skybox. This
morning I went back to the yacht club, for the Mother's Day Brunch.
Then I'm buying my mother a DVD player, for Mother's Day, so she can
watch the movie, "Beowulf."

Is that such a hard life?


"The object of military action is the annihilation of the enemy's
army, the destruction of his cities, and the wastage of his
countryside."


Sun Tzu -- The Art of War.



I like that quote.


For an unnecessary war, five years is too long.


Really? What is unnecessary? And what is too long?
Honor and Glory, and Treasure goes to the victorious.


Sun Tzu's words are eternal. His name will live forever.


You may chant that, but it won't make you a good warrior.


I *AM* a good warrior. I have the medals and papers to prove it.
My name is over a thousand years old, and my name will live forever.


It's people like you who are helping our enemies. You are helping our
troops to die.


But you think that people like you who sent our troops over, which is
the main cause to cause our troops to die, are not to blame?


I trained our troops. I trained them well. They protect the
ungrateful, like you. Be grateful that your church hasn't been
visited by a suicide bomber.

You should lift a flagon of mead to our brave soldiers, as they
protect everyone in this wonderful country.


Enjoy your shame.


Shame is on you.


Spit is on you.







My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
  #183  
Old May 11th 08, 05:24 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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"Norm" wrote in message
news:cyFVj.130507$rd2.15901@pd7urf3no...


I suspect that if the Bush justice dept had been watching over the actions of
lenders a bit better, a lot of people wouldn't have been caught up in this,
because they never would have gotten the loans. Lenders were pretty sloppy
about who they gave loans to. Some neighbors of mine refused to follow
through on their re-finance when they went to sign the final papers, after
seeing the fabrications the lender make to their financial story to make the
loan look acceptable.


Thats true. And I wouldn't claim for a minute that its not A problem. But its
not THE problem. If Bush hadn't wasted several (i'm still too lazy to look up
the exact number.) trillion dollars and climbing, with no end in sight, the
credit crunch would be a significantly smaller blip on the screen.


It might have helped if he at least paid the bills, instead of doing his
spending on credit.


  #184  
Old May 11th 08, 06:41 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On May 11, 9:23*am, "Bob F" wrote:
"Norm" wrote in message

news:iQEVj.260715$pM4.121223@pd7urf1no...







"pigo" wrote in message news:e75227d1-fcc1-452f-bbee-


Well, you need to tell those million people who are about to lose
their houses about it.


How is it President Bush's fault that those "million people" bought
houses or took out loans that they could not afford?


============================== (frickin google posters!)


The credit problem is not the cause of the coming recession, its a symptom.
The cause is President Bush. He is spending however many trillion dollars you
don't have to fight a war there was no need for while ignoring fundamental
issues at home which were his job to deal with. You can't do that for 5 years
and not expect some consequence.


==============================


It's right there
on the paper that the payment might (will) go up. I ALWAYS get 30 yr.
fixed (if I don't pay cash) . For years these people have been making
1/2 the payment I have for the same amount of money and smirking at ME
for being the putz and paying too much. Well, it's time to take their
medicine. I should be allowed to buy their house in a fire sale now or
get a refund on my payments.


==============================


You still build houses for a living, don't you? How difficult would it be to
calculate how many houses you would NOT have built in the last 5 years if
everybody who bought a house was required to meet those conditions? Reasonable
access to credit helps to drive the economy. You are absolutely correct, there
are always risks involved, but if GWB had his priorities in order 5 years ago,
the econmy would have been more than resilient enough to weather this storm.
Instead, its crippled by his hand.


I suspect that if the Bush justice dept had been watching over the actions of
lenders a bit better, a lot of people wouldn't have been caught up in this,
because they never would have gotten the loans. Lenders were pretty sloppy about
who they gave loans to. Some neighbors of mine refused to follow through on
their re-finance when they went to sign the final papers, after seeing the
fabrications the lender make to their financial story to make the loan look
acceptable.


My wife is a broker. She refused to go along with the worst of it.
One of her agents quit because she wouldn't approve the risky loan
package he put together for a potential client.

  #185  
Old May 11th 08, 11:38 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On May 11, 10:06*am, "Norm" wrote:
"pigo" wrote in message news:e75227d1-fcc1-452f-bbee-
Well, you need to tell those million people who are about to lose
their houses about it.


How is it President Bush's fault that those "million people" bought
houses or took out loans that they could not afford?

============================== (frickin google posters!)

The credit problem is not the cause of the coming recession, its a symptom..
The cause is President Bush. He is spending however many trillion dollars
you don't have to fight a war there was no need for while ignoring
fundamental issues at home which were his job to deal with. You can't do
that for 5 years and not expect some consequence.

==============================

It's right there
on the paper that the payment might (will) go up. I ALWAYS get 30 yr.
fixed (if I don't pay cash) . For years these people have been making
1/2 the payment I have for the same amount of money and smirking at ME
for being the putz and paying too much. Well, it's time to take their
medicine. I should be allowed to buy their house in a fire sale now or
get a refund on my payments.

==============================

You still build houses for a living, don't you? How difficult would it be to
calculate how many houses you would NOT have built in the last 5 years if
everybody who bought a house was required to meet those conditions?
Reasonable access to credit helps to drive the economy. You are absolutely
correct, there are always risks involved, but if GWB had his priorities in
order 5 years ago, the econmy would have been more than resilient enough to
weather this storm. Instead, its crippled by his hand.


I'm not going to be able to change your mind so I'm not going to try.
  #186  
Old May 11th 08, 11:39 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
pigo[_2_]
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On May 11, 10:23*am, "Bob F" wrote:
"Norm" wrote in message

news:iQEVj.260715$pM4.121223@pd7urf1no...







"pigo" wrote in message news:e75227d1-fcc1-452f-bbee-


Well, you need to tell those million people who are about to lose
their houses about it.


How is it President Bush's fault that those "million people" bought
houses or took out loans that they could not afford?


============================== (frickin google posters!)


The credit problem is not the cause of the coming recession, its a symptom.
The cause is President Bush. He is spending however many trillion dollars you
don't have to fight a war there was no need for while ignoring fundamental
issues at home which were his job to deal with. You can't do that for 5 years
and not expect some consequence.


==============================


It's right there
on the paper that the payment might (will) go up. I ALWAYS get 30 yr.
fixed (if I don't pay cash) . For years these people have been making
1/2 the payment I have for the same amount of money and smirking at ME
for being the putz and paying too much. Well, it's time to take their
medicine. I should be allowed to buy their house in a fire sale now or
get a refund on my payments.


==============================


You still build houses for a living, don't you? How difficult would it be to
calculate how many houses you would NOT have built in the last 5 years if
everybody who bought a house was required to meet those conditions? Reasonable
access to credit helps to drive the economy. You are absolutely correct, there
are always risks involved, but if GWB had his priorities in order 5 years ago,
the econmy would have been more than resilient enough to weather this storm.
Instead, its crippled by his hand.


I suspect that if the Bush justice dept had been watching over the actions of
lenders a bit better, a lot of people wouldn't have been caught up in this,
because they never would have gotten the loans. Lenders were pretty sloppy about
who they gave loans to. Some neighbors of mine refused to follow through on
their re-finance when they went to sign the final papers, after seeing the
fabrications the lender make to their financial story to make the loan look
acceptable.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


It has also been nearly impossible to turn down anyone "not white" for
quite a few years.
  #187  
Old May 12th 08, 12:46 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On May 11, 4:39*pm, pigo wrote:
On May 11, 10:23*am, "Bob F" wrote:





"Norm" wrote in message


news:iQEVj.260715$pM4.121223@pd7urf1no...


"pigo" wrote in message news:e75227d1-fcc1-452f-bbee-


Well, you need to tell those million people who are about to lose
their houses about it.


How is it President Bush's fault that those "million people" bought
houses or took out loans that they could not afford?


============================== (frickin google posters!)


The credit problem is not the cause of the coming recession, its a symptom.
The cause is President Bush. He is spending however many trillion dollars you
don't have to fight a war there was no need for while ignoring fundamental
issues at home which were his job to deal with. You can't do that for 5 years
and not expect some consequence.


==============================


It's right there
on the paper that the payment might (will) go up. I ALWAYS get 30 yr.
fixed (if I don't pay cash) . For years these people have been making
1/2 the payment I have for the same amount of money and smirking at ME
for being the putz and paying too much. Well, it's time to take their
medicine. I should be allowed to buy their house in a fire sale now or
get a refund on my payments.


==============================


You still build houses for a living, don't you? How difficult would it be to
calculate how many houses you would NOT have built in the last 5 years if
everybody who bought a house was required to meet those conditions? Reasonable
access to credit helps to drive the economy. You are absolutely correct, there
are always risks involved, but if GWB had his priorities in order 5 years ago,
the econmy would have been more than resilient enough to weather this storm.
Instead, its crippled by his hand.


I suspect that if the Bush justice dept had been watching over the actions of
lenders a bit better, a lot of people wouldn't have been caught up in this,
because they never would have gotten the loans. Lenders were pretty sloppy about
who they gave loans to. Some neighbors of mine refused to follow through on
their re-finance when they went to sign the final papers, after seeing the
fabrications the lender make to their financial story to make the loan look
acceptable.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It has also been nearly impossible to turn down anyone "not white" for
quite a few years.- Hide quoted text -


Nonsense.
  #188  
Old May 12th 08, 02:42 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On May 10, 8:17 pm, Walt wrote:

Oh, fer cryin out loud everybody. Lighten up! This was about
TOMATOES!!!!!!!
I've lived in Colorado AND Texas, and it's about TOMATOES!!!!!!!


I've been out of the country for the last few days, so I've missed the news.

Are you trying to tell me that Obama and Hillary are going to settle
this with tomatoes?



Slinging tomatoes would be more entertaining than the garbage
politicians have been slinging at each other for years. And just as
enlightening!
  #189  
Old May 12th 08, 03:20 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
The Real Bev
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Bob F wrote:

I suspect that if the Bush justice dept had been watching over the actions of
lenders a bit better, a lot of people wouldn't have been caught up in this,
because they never would have gotten the loans. Lenders were pretty sloppy about
who they gave loans to. Some neighbors of mine refused to follow through on
their re-finance when they went to sign the final papers, after seeing the
fabrications the lender make to their financial story to make the loan look
acceptable.


Wasn't there some sort of federal pressure against the banks for
discrimination against people who couldn't really afford to buy a house?

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  #190  
Old May 12th 08, 11:45 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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pigo wrote:
How is it President Bush's fault that those "million people" bought
houses or took out loans that they could not afford? It's right there
on the paper that the payment might (will) go up. I ALWAYS get 30 yr.
fixed (if I don't pay cash) .


Can you fix your interest rate for 30 years? I don't think we can do that
here, there's usually a few years you can lock it in at, and then you're at
the mercy of the market.

That sub-prime thing has had some big knock-on effects here, too.
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I'm using the latest spammer/scammer's
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