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klaus wrote:
The Real Bev wrote: And I'd guess that kim chee is pretty far down on our Xmas list too. If everyone minded his own business the world would go around a great deal faster. Well, we're not exactly the poster child for minding our own business. We should be, though. Seems like we had to apologize for being American even when we weren't evil. And I like Kim Chee. Tasty stuff. I make it myself from fresh cabbage sometimes. Takes a while to ferment but lovely aroma. Uh, OK. Perhaps you might find it a useful training aid for Chava. Maybe smear the dear and moose with it... -- Cheers, Bev 0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o 0o0o0o0o0o0o0 Judges are our only protection against a legal system that can afford lots more prosecution than we can afford defense. |
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tm wrote:
Mary Malmros wrote: Um...klaus? You don't need a vagina to give a blowjob...so if you think this is the route to world peace, I suggest you and the rest of the guys lace on your kneepads and get to work on each other. Important point, and kinda ties in with the whole Greek soldier bit, but seriously, wtf are you people on about with oral sex? We're doing trojan war/iraq war analogies here. Comeon, stick with the program. Sorry.. got distracted by the blowjob. Back On Topic. Do you really believe Trojans are ribbed for _her_ pleasure? -klaus |
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The Real Bev wrote:
.... and castor oil will ease the pain of arthritis. Taken internally or externally ? (serious question) |
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Walt wrote:
Of course, some of us did realize at the time that the WMD stuff was an elaborate snipe hunt, but as Astro put it so succinctly, we "didn't matter." And while I can handle being consigned to the "doesn't matter" bin (hey, I'm used to it) the fact is that Hans Blix and his team of UN inspectors were put in the "doesn't matter" bin as well. If that's not an indictment of the decision makers, I don't know what is. But if St. Hans Blix knew there was nothing there, why did he keep looking ? Surely he should have been screaming that it was a waste of time, but maybe then he'd have lost his job... I think there were very few people that thought there were no WMDs at the time. We know Saddam had already used them against his own people in the past. UN resolutions were passed about it, not vetoed by members of the Security Council, like France and Russia did later. Of course they knew what materiel they were supply him under "Oil for food" :/ I agree that Iraq wasn't an immediate threat or that the 45 minute claim was ever a reality, but everyone "knew" they had WMDs at the time. Hell, if the powers-that-be knew it was all a sham, surely they'd have been smart enough to make sure "something" was found when the invasion was complete ? Actually, given the mess they made post-invasion, don't answer that |
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Walt wrote:
But, you are correct that prior to the spring of 2003, most people thought the possibility was likely enough to back forced inspections. It was when the inspections came up empty that Bush and Company pushed the panic button and invaded before Blix had a chance to report that inconvenient fact back to the UN. I don't buy that - how much time did he need ? The panic button took weeks to happen, it wasn't a "push the button and watch the ICBMs fly" scenario. Why didn't he start screaming as soon as he saw the way things were going with Bush/Blair ? Why didn't his "inconvenient fact" get reported when B/B tried to get UN backing for the war ? |
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tm wrote:
The Real Bev wrote: ant wrote: The Real Bev wrote: Yup. Next year... The DIL is going to do Xmas, and she'll doubtless get GOOD turkeys because since she's been buying organic stuff the 6-YO grandspawn has lost his chronic cough. That's a worry. Do they know what it was that was causing it? We get organic (or free range) poultry for the taste, mainly. No. The doc (a real one, not the HMO quack) ran a lot of tests and came up with nothing at all. Cutting out non-organic foods seems to have done the trick, though. Probably not so much the "organic" as paying closer attention to diet. Kids'll eat a lot of junk if you let 'em. Yeah, but the cough is puzzling, an odd reaction to food and/or chemicals. -- ant http://www.dcita.gov.au/tel/do_not_call to make your comment on proposals to limit telemarketing |
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tm wrote:
They didn't explain the whole dipping Pitt in invincible juice part. Or, if they did, i dozed thru it. they had to gloss over that, as the film would have been rated R because it contained child abuse. -- ant http://www.dcita.gov.au/tel/do_not_call to make your comment on proposals to limit telemarketing |
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BrritSki wrote:
I agree that Iraq wasn't an immediate threat or that the 45 minute claim was ever a reality, but everyone "knew" they had WMDs at the time. No one "knew", but a lot of us were bloody sure there were no WMD and argued the point strenuously, which was not a popular move. For some reason, someone needed to have a war with Iraq. -- ant http://www.dcita.gov.au/tel/do_not_call to make your comment on proposals to limit telemarketing |
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tm wrote:
BrritSki wrote: Walt wrote: But, you are correct that prior to the spring of 2003, most people thought the possibility was likely enough to back forced inspections. It was when the inspections came up empty that Bush and Company pushed the panic button and invaded before Blix had a chance to report that inconvenient fact back to the UN. I don't buy that - how much time did he need ? The panic button took weeks to happen, it wasn't a "push the button and watch the ICBMs fly" scenario. Why didn't he start screaming as soon as he saw the way things were going with Bush/Blair ? Why didn't his "inconvenient fact" get reported when B/B tried to get UN backing for the war ? He? ICBM? Nobody is suggesting that Hussein had icbms. Our ICBMs dumbass. You gonna address the question about Blix ? |
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ant wrote:
BrritSki wrote: I agree that Iraq wasn't an immediate threat or that the 45 minute claim was ever a reality, but everyone "knew" they had WMDs at the time. No one "knew", but a lot of us were bloody sure there were no WMD and argued the point strenuously, which was not a popular move. Got any quotes on when you (or anyone else here for that matter) argued this pre-war ? |
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