Nutbar Dave, Stalking Freak

Nutbar Dave is still stalking, still lying, still pretending to be nice, and
doesn't understand that no matter how civil he acts in public, we know him
for what he is and we remember the vile lies he tells.
So he's still stalking. What did he say?
Something along the lines of "Wait until they start deleting your polite "on
topic" posts AND men's thoughtful replies to you. See how you feel then."
Geez, we feel irritated every time this asshole stalks us. We are worried
that he intends to do real world harm and commit violence, because he just
can't understand that he isn't welcome among decent people. He just keeps
stalking like the obsessed psychopath he is.
Dave is dangerous. Would someone PLEASE give me his real name and location
so I can let the cops know about his insane stalking?

"scottabe" wrote in message
...
Nutbar Dave is still stalking, still lying, still pretending to be nice,
and
doesn't understand that no matter how civil he acts in public, we know him
for what he is and we remember the vile lies he tells.
So he's still stalking. What did he say?
Something along the lines of "Wait until they start deleting your polite
"on
topic" posts AND men's thoughtful replies to you. See how you feel then."
Geez, we feel irritated every time this asshole stalks us. We are worried
that he intends to do real world harm and commit violence, because he just
can't understand that he isn't welcome among decent people. He just keeps
stalking like the obsessed psychopath he is.
Dave is dangerous. Would someone PLEASE give me his real name and
location
so I can let the cops know about his insane stalking?

Dave.

Nashville.

In article ,
scottabe wrote:

Nutbar Dave is still stalking, still lying, still pretending to be nice, and
doesn't understand that no matter how civil he acts in public, we know him
for what he is and we remember the vile lies he tells.
So he's still stalking. What did he say?

I'm pretty sure that no one asked. I suspect they get quite enough of
me without you resorting to copying and pasting my posts from mensbbs.
I haven't looked at this in a while, but aside from being rude, there
may be some issues regarding their charter about that.

Something along the lines of "Wait until they start deleting your polite "on
topic" posts AND men's thoughtful replies to you. See how you feel then."

Yep, those are my words alright. But they're "stolen" from mensbbs. I
also would not expect that anybody here cares about the mensbbs group.
If they do, I recommend that they keep it over in mensbbs where it
belongs.

Geez, we feel irritated every time this asshole stalks us. We are worried
that he intends to do real world harm and commit violence, because he just
can't understand that he isn't welcome among decent people. He just keeps
stalking like the obsessed psychopath he is.

Mmmmmm, Hmmmm. Your rhetoric is over the top and inflammatory. If you
are going to quote my posts and claim that I'm a violent stalker, maybe
you should copy posts that support your position instead of "polite, on
topic musings."

Follow my example. When you claimed you "never carried a gun" I posted
a link to a post where you bragged of carrying a concealed weapon into a
jewish synogague. (JUST IN CASE!) When you were claiming people were
stalking you by posting your home address to RSA, I found the post where
you started the whole mess by posting your own address into RSA and
usenet and challenging strangers to come visit you to "teach them a
lesson."

Dave is dangerous. Would someone PLEASE give me his real name and location
so I can let the cops know about his insane stalking?

Okay, here's some good advice. Hire a *COMPETENT* lawyer. (Remember,
he must be a member of the bar and not some barstool paralawyer.) Get
him to petition for an order of protection. You'll need some of my
posts which you find personally threatening.

The ones where I say that I have no interest in ever meeting and would
(if given the choice) avoid you don't really bolster you position. THe
ones where you stated that you were coming to Nashville and wanted to
meet me (if I had the courage) don't really help much either. Hmmmm,
that part could be a problem after all. I did say recently that riding
the chairlift with me could be hazardous because I tend to fall when I
get off. That might work, or it might be viewed as self deprecating
humour.

You could show them this:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?F24612E87

How about this. Go to your police station. Ask to see a detective.
Take a shoebox full of RSA postings. Tell him about your "excop"
status, your Navy SEAL training (everybody loves SEAL Team 6) and all
your friends on the force.

Show him some posts so he'll know how serious this is. I suggest the
ever-popular "Living Under the Threat of Death" post where you go at
great length to tell about almost shooting an unarmed kid because the
RSA people you all jittery. Let him know that this is so serious that
you carry a concealed weapon. Show him your permit... you might need to
make your own before you go down there though. Do you have an
Imagewriter II hooked up to that Mac of yours? You could make one with
that and a copy of MacPaint. HTH.

Dave

in article , vern93
at wrote on 2/28/04 12:52 AM:

In article ,
scottabe wrote:

Nutbar Dave is still stalking, still lying, still pretending to be nice, and
doesn't understand that no matter how civil he acts in public, we know him
for what he is and we remember the vile lies he tells.
So he's still stalking. What did he say?

I'm pretty sure that no one asked. I suspect they get quite enough of
me without you resorting to copying and pasting my posts from mensbbs.
I haven't looked at this in a while, but aside from being rude, there
may be some issues regarding their charter about that.

stop stalking, Dave.

Something along the lines of "Wait until they start deleting your polite "on
topic" posts AND men's thoughtful replies to you. See how you feel then."

Yep, those are my words alright. But they're "stolen" from mensbbs. I
also would not expect that anybody here cares about the mensbbs group.
If they do, I recommend that they keep it over in mensbbs where it
belongs.

Stop stalking, freak.

Geez, we feel irritated every time this asshole stalks us. We are worried
that he intends to do real world harm and commit violence, because he just
can't understand that he isn't welcome among decent people. He just keeps
stalking like the obsessed psychopath he is.

Mmmmmm, Hmmmm. Your rhetoric is over the top and inflammatory. If you
are going to quote my posts and claim that I'm a violent stalker, maybe
you should copy posts that support your position instead of "polite, on
topic musings."

You are banned because you are a stalking freak.

Follow my example. When you claimed you "never carried a gun" I posted
a link to a post where you bragged of carrying a concealed weapon into a
jewish synogague. (JUST IN CASE!)

I never claimed that, you pathological liar. You are banned because you are
a stalking, lying freak.

When you were claiming people were
stalking you by posting your home address to RSA, I found the post where
you started the whole mess by posting your own address into RSA and
usenet and challenging strangers to come visit you to "teach them a
lesson."

Another outright lie. Also ignores the reality that you sick freaks did
drive bys and bragged about it, both on Bert and me. What a freak!

Dave is dangerous. Would someone PLEASE give me his real name and location
so I can let the cops know about his insane stalking?

Okay, here's some good advice. Hire a *COMPETENT* lawyer. (Remember,
he must be a member of the bar and not some barstool paralawyer.) Get
him to petition for an order of protection. You'll need some of my
posts which you find personally threatening.

This post. Lies, defamations, inciting others to violence.
Tell ya what.
Give me a verifiable name and address, and YOU can hire a competent lawyer,
freak.

The ones where I say that I have no interest in ever meeting and would
(if given the choice) avoid you don't really bolster you position.

Your continued stalking bolsters my opinion, freak.

THe
ones where you stated that you were coming to Nashville and wanted to
meet me (if I had the courage) don't really help much either. Hmmmm,
that part could be a problem after all. I did say recently that riding
the chairlift with me could be hazardous because I tend to fall when I
get off. That might work, or it might be viewed as self deprecating
humour.


It might be viewed as stalking.

You could show them this:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?F24612E87

How about this. Go to your police station. Ask to see a detective.
Take a shoebox full of RSA postings. Tell him about your "excop"
status, your Navy SEAL training (everybody loves SEAL Team 6) and all
your friends on the force.

I'd rather tell them about your stalking.

Show him some posts so he'll know how serious this is. I suggest the
ever-popular "Living Under the Threat of Death" post where you go at
great length to tell about almost shooting an unarmed kid because the
RSA people you all jittery. Let him know that this is so serious that
you carry a concealed weapon. Show him your permit... you might need to
make your own before you go down there though. Do you have an
Imagewriter II hooked up to that Mac of yours? You could make one with
that and a copy of MacPaint. HTH.

You're not fooling anyone, Dave. You're a stalker. A freak. When
perceptive people get to know you, they shun you. As you are banned on
mens. That's what bugs you. You go through your life hiding your true
psychopathic nature, conning people, lying to people, and you just can't
bear the fact that Bert and I see you for the freak you are. So do cops,
therapists, parole officers: you know, the people who tell you that you're a
freak.

In article ,
scottabe wrote:

Follow my example. When you claimed you "never carried a gun" I posted
a link to a post where you bragged of carrying a concealed weapon into a
jewish synogague. (JUST IN CASE!)

I never claimed that, you pathological liar.

Yeah, you did:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z27442187


When you were claiming people were
stalking you by posting your home address to RSA, I found the post where
you started the whole mess by posting your own address into RSA and
usenet and challenging strangers to come visit you to "teach them a
lesson."

Another outright lie.

No, you did that too.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C63932B87


Dave is dangerous. Would someone PLEASE give me his real name and location
so I can let the cops know about his insane stalking?

Okay, here's some good advice. Hire a *COMPETENT* lawyer. (Remember,
he must be a member of the bar and not some barstool paralawyer.) Get
him to petition for an order of protection. You'll need some of my
posts which you find personally threatening.

This post. Lies, defamations, inciting others to violence.

Where on earth did you see that? If you can point it out, I promise
I'll apologize. Deal?

Tell ya what.
Give me a verifiable name and address, and YOU can hire a competent lawyer,
freak.

I think It'd be cheaper just not to post my name and address. I don't
want you to do this:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?G28022F87

You could show them this:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?F24612E87

How about this. Go to your police station. Ask to see a detective.
Take a shoebox full of RSA postings. Tell him about your "excop"
status, your Navy SEAL training (everybody loves SEAL Team 6) and all
your friends on the force.

I'd rather tell them about your stalking.

Sigh, since my ONLY contact with you is (and will ever be) usenet, that
is EXACTLY what I'm saying. Go down to the police station, show them
your posts and voice your concerns. Explain you are so bothered by this
that you forced to go armed and explain what the past 4 years have been
like for you. Tell him the whole story.


You're not fooling anyone, Dave. You're a stalker. A freak. When
perceptive people get to know you, they shun you. As you are banned on
mens.

Look, what on earth does mensbbs have to do with your melt down here?
Other than a bunch of "insane wackos" who were "molested as children"
and have "no morals." You seem to find those where ever you go.


That's what bugs you. You go through your life hiding your true
psychopathic nature, conning people, lying to people, and you just can't
bear the fact that Bert and I see you for the freak you are. So do cops,
therapists, parole officers: you know, the people who tell you that you're a
freak.

I believe you have me mixed up with someone else. Does Bert Hoff know
that you're speaking for him? Does he support your posting mensbbs
transcripts over here and bring your mensbss here?

Dave

Oh Yeah,

http://makeashorterlink.com/?F24612E87

"vern93" wrote in message
...
In article ,
scottabe wrote:

Follow my example. When you claimed you "never carried a gun" I
posted
a link to a post where you bragged of carrying a concealed weapon into
a
jewish synogague. (JUST IN CASE!)

I never claimed that, you pathological liar.

Yeah, you did:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z27442187

Perhaps S will say that he only wore the empty shoulder holster. I can
imagine that an "accidental" flash of the leather under his suitcoat would
impress the females. When I asked him about this a couple of days ago, he
got all touchy. Didn't want to be pinned down, I'm guessing. In any event,
wearing a shoulder holster while planning "to talk with the homicide unit of
the Seattle Police Department" might lead to some unintended real-life
consequences, espcially if the officers are made nervous by S's behavior.

When you were claiming people were
stalking you by posting your home address to RSA, I found the post
where
you started the whole mess by posting your own address into RSA and
usenet and challenging strangers to come visit you to "teach them a
lesson."

Another outright lie.

No, you did that too.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C63932B87

Actually, in S's defense, he said "lessonh".

In article 2Q30c.4757$h23.2318@fed1read06,
"Richard Henry" wrote:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z27442187

Perhaps S will say that he only wore the empty shoulder holster. I can
imagine that an "accidental" flash of the leather under his suitcoat would
impress the females.

Chicks do love the shootin' irons. I think that's why 007 always poses
holding that Walther.

When I asked him about this a couple of days ago, he
got all touchy. Didn't want to be pinned down, I'm guessing.

Maybe, and as much as I am loath to interject controversy into an
otherwise civil discussion, he did say "I had hoped that I would never
have to carry a weapon again. As I write, I just finished dressing for
my normal Sabbath morning trip to synagogue. Suit, tie, and shoulder
holster.

and

"My roomates are .... are also leaving the house armed"

He did say he was armed.

In any event,
wearing a shoulder holster while planning "to talk with the homicide unit of
the Seattle Police Department" might lead to some unintended real-life
consequences, espcially if the officers are made nervous by S's behavior.

Maybe they knew he was an ex-cop with Navy SEALS training who had killed
with his bare hands in 'Nam. Those stories never fail to impress. Or
maybe he told them he had worked as a security guard in a hospital once
and showed him the police scanner he carried around so it looked like he
had a police radio.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C63932B87

Actually, in S's defense, he said "lessonh".

Agreed, but I assumed it was an affectation, as in "Respect my
Authori-TAH."

Dave

"vern93" wrote in message
...
In article 2Q30c.4757$h23.2318@fed1read06,
"Richard Henry" wrote:


Actually, in S's defense, he said "lessonh".

Agreed, but I assumed it was an affectation, as in "Respect my
Authori-TAH."

I recently got a soccer equipment catalog. One of the items was a t-shirt
with the word "COACH", a picture of Cartman, and the line you just quoted.

I have a hard time imagining sub-teen kids watching South Park. They would
have to hide it from their parents.

Mine do.

in article , vern93
at wrote on 2/28/04 9:14 AM:

In article 2Q30c.4757$h23.2318@fed1read06,
"Richard Henry" wrote:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z27442187

Perhaps S will say that he only wore the empty shoulder holster. I can
imagine that an "accidental" flash of the leather under his suitcoat would
impress the females.

Chicks do love the shootin' irons. I think that's why 007 always poses
holding that Walther.

When I asked him about this a couple of days ago, he
got all touchy. Didn't want to be pinned down, I'm guessing.

Maybe, and as much as I am loath to interject controversy into an
otherwise civil discussion, he did say "I had hoped that I would never
have to carry a weapon again. As I write, I just finished dressing for
my normal Sabbath morning trip to synagogue. Suit, tie, and shoulder
holster.

and

"My roomates are .... are also leaving the house armed"

He did say he was armed.

In any event,
wearing a shoulder holster while planning "to talk with the homicide unit of
the Seattle Police Department" might lead to some unintended real-life
consequences, espcially if the officers are made nervous by S's behavior.

Maybe they knew he was an ex-cop with Navy SEALS training who had killed
with his bare hands in 'Nam. Those stories never fail to impress. Or
maybe he told them he had worked as a security guard in a hospital once
and showed him the police scanner he carried around so it looked like he
had a police radio.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C63932B87

Actually, in S's defense, he said "lessonh".

Agreed, but I assumed it was an affectation, as in "Respect my
Authori-TAH."

Dave



Maybe you sick freaks threatened my life. Repeatedly. After seeing how
insane sick freaks like these two are, and after sick freaks like these two
threatened to kill Bert and me, any reasonable sane man would choose to take
reasonable precautions to protect himself and his loved ones.
Why do these sick freaks ALWAYS omit the fact that these sick freaks
threatened my life repeatedly?
I encourage anyone who is being stalked by these sick freaks to arm
themselves and defend themselves. They are deranged stalkers, hateful
wackos who are a threat to anyone who calls them on their ****. Truly
dangerous internet freaks who can't stop lying, stalking, and threatening
violence.

in article , vern93
at wrote on 2/28/04 8:51 AM:

In article ,
scottabe wrote:

Follow my example. When you claimed you "never carried a gun" I posted
a link to a post where you bragged of carrying a concealed weapon into a
jewish synogague. (JUST IN CASE!)

I never claimed that, you pathological liar.

Yeah, you did:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z27442187


When you were claiming people were
stalking you by posting your home address to RSA, I found the post where
you started the whole mess by posting your own address into RSA and
usenet and challenging strangers to come visit you to "teach them a
lesson."

Another outright lie.

No, you did that too.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C63932B87


Dave is dangerous. Would someone PLEASE give me his real name and location
so I can let the cops know about his insane stalking?

Okay, here's some good advice. Hire a *COMPETENT* lawyer. (Remember,
he must be a member of the bar and not some barstool paralawyer.) Get
him to petition for an order of protection. You'll need some of my
posts which you find personally threatening.

This post. Lies, defamations, inciting others to violence.

Where on earth did you see that? If you can point it out, I promise
I'll apologize. Deal?

Tell ya what.
Give me a verifiable name and address, and YOU can hire a competent lawyer,
freak.

I think It'd be cheaper just not to post my name and address. I don't
want you to do this:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?G28022F87

You could show them this:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?F24612E87

How about this. Go to your police station. Ask to see a detective.
Take a shoebox full of RSA postings. Tell him about your "excop"
status, your Navy SEAL training (everybody loves SEAL Team 6) and all
your friends on the force.

I'd rather tell them about your stalking.

Sigh, since my ONLY contact with you is (and will ever be) usenet, that
is EXACTLY what I'm saying. Go down to the police station, show them
your posts and voice your concerns. Explain you are so bothered by this
that you forced to go armed and explain what the past 4 years have been
like for you. Tell him the whole story.


You're not fooling anyone, Dave. You're a stalker. A freak. When
perceptive people get to know you, they shun you. As you are banned on
mens.

Look, what on earth does mensbbs have to do with your melt down here?
Other than a bunch of "insane wackos" who were "molested as children"
and have "no morals." You seem to find those where ever you go.


That's what bugs you. You go through your life hiding your true
psychopathic nature, conning people, lying to people, and you just can't
bear the fact that Bert and I see you for the freak you are. So do cops,
therapists, parole officers: you know, the people who tell you that you're a
freak.

I believe you have me mixed up with someone else. Does Bert Hoff know
that you're speaking for him? Does he support your posting mensbbs
transcripts over here and bring your mensbss here?

Dave

Oh Yeah,

http://makeashorterlink.com/?F24612E87

Stop stalking, Dave. Stop lying, Dave.