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Le Dieu January 10th 05 10:54 AM


"Ace" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:00:40 +0100, "Simon Brown"
wrote:

From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a skier in
the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder lying in the snow
without offering any assistance. The snowboarder was rammed by the skier
who
was travelling at a very high speed.


I find this a bit like the fairly frequent "biker down" threads on
ukrm. I mean, was it anybody I know, or you know? If not, what's the
big deal? I mean, it's not _that_ unusual an occurence.



I suppose, like the biker threads, it's a bit like the, 'if not for the
grace of god' thing. I'd just like to think that if somone wiped me out
they'd stop to check if they could do anything to help.

A. D.





Florian Anwander January 10th 05 11:29 AM

Hi cupra

I suffered a few near misses from people on the edge of control throughout
the Sella Ronda this Xmas

I do not really like prejudices, but my experiences with skiing in
italian resorts, which are visited much by it italian skiiers, a If
there is a queue at the lift it is dangerous to ski the piste.
I never had that many really dangerous close-to-accidents with people
who could not ski, but did a race down the piste, while talking to a
mobile phone (or similar nice behaviours...).
New year 2001 in Campitello we decided to do only backcountry tours,
though we had bought four day ressort tickets - the avalanche risk was
not that high as the risk to be injured on the piste.

Florian


Simon Brown January 10th 05 11:31 AM

BTW he died of head injuries, I don't know if he was wearing a helmet.
--
Simon Brown
www.hb9drv.ch

"Simon Brown" wrote in message
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Maybe there will be more info in the Italian press / websites.




Simon Brown January 10th 05 11:35 AM

"Ace" wrote in message
...

I find this a bit like the fairly frequent "biker down" threads on
ukrm. I mean, was it anybody I know, or you know? If not, what's the
big deal? I mean, it's not _that_ unusual an occurence.


Dieing like this is rather unusual I think - at least death through
collision doesn't get reported very much. Also we (I) often rant (used to
rant) about snowboarders.
--
Simon Brown
www.hb9drv.ch



cupra January 10th 05 11:49 AM

Simon Brown wrote:
"Ace" wrote in message
...

I find this a bit like the fairly frequent "biker down" threads on
ukrm. I mean, was it anybody I know, or you know? If not, what's the
big deal? I mean, it's not _that_ unusual an occurence.


Dieing like this is rather unusual I think - at least death through
collision doesn't get reported very much. Also we (I) often rant
(used to rant) about snowboarders.


In my experience, there seems to be an increase in the skill of boarders
over the past 2/3 years (people are actually taking lessons these days). I
rarely see as many Boarder-on-Skier collisions these days as I used to,
whereas the anecdotal evidence of my last trip saw a few Skier-on-Skier and
a couple of Skier-on-Boarder collisions but no Boarder-on-Skier. (this is
not a troll to stoke up the old boarder/skier tensions btw!)



Champ January 10th 05 12:36 PM

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:52:28 -0000, " cupra"
wrote:

Ace wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:00:40 +0100, "Simon Brown"
wrote:

From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a
skier in the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder lying
in the snow without offering any assistance. The snowboarder was
rammed by the skier who was travelling at a very high speed.


I find this a bit like the fairly frequent "biker down" threads on
ukrm. I mean, was it anybody I know, or you know? If not, what's the
big deal? I mean, it's not _that_ unusual an occurence.


The day a death on the slopes is treated as 'not a big deal' is the day I
think I'll hang up my boots.....


Do you drive a car?
--
Champ

Champ January 10th 05 12:36 PM

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:00:40 +0100, "Simon Brown"
wrote:

From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a skier in
the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder lying in the snow
without offering any assistance. The snowboarder was rammed by the skier who
was travelling at a very high speed.


He would have been much safer off piste :-)
--
Champ

cupra January 10th 05 12:44 PM

Champ wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:52:28 -0000, " cupra"
wrote:

Ace wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:00:40 +0100, "Simon Brown"
wrote:

From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a
skier in the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder
lying in the snow without offering any assistance. The snowboarder
was rammed by the skier who was travelling at a very high speed.

I find this a bit like the fairly frequent "biker down" threads on
ukrm. I mean, was it anybody I know, or you know? If not, what's the
big deal? I mean, it's not _that_ unusual an occurence.


The day a death on the slopes is treated as 'not a big deal' is the
day I think I'll hang up my boots.....


Do you drive a car?


I do, out of necessity.



John Ricketts January 10th 05 12:59 PM

snip


(this is not a troll to stoke up the old boarder/skier tensions btw!)


As if they needed stoking up! IMHO they'd cut a whole load of accidents by
legislating against snowboarder picnics! It seems as if every corner you go
around there's a half dozen of em spreading the table cloth out! Its
sometimes difficult to jump over them if you're not going fast enough!

On a serious note though... hit-and-run on the piste is completely
unforgiveable but just another sign of the IAJ (I'm Alright Jack) culture of
today. IME some nationalities are more courteous and helpful (Dutch for
instance?) than others. Why is that?



cupra January 10th 05 01:03 PM

John Ricketts wrote:
snip


(this is not a troll to stoke up the old boarder/skier tensions btw!)


As if they needed stoking up! IMHO they'd cut a whole load of
accidents by legislating against snowboarder picnics! It seems as if
every corner you go around there's a half dozen of em spreading the
table cloth out! Its sometimes difficult to jump over them if you're
not going fast enough!


lol


On a serious note though... hit-and-run on the piste is completely
unforgiveable but just another sign of the IAJ (I'm Alright Jack)
culture of today. IME some nationalities are more courteous and
helpful (Dutch for instance?) than others. Why is that?


IME it's down the the individual - I've met some very friendly and helpful
Germans/Italians/French and so on, as well as some downright rude ones!




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