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Simon Brown January 10th 05 11:00 AM

Snowboarder Dead :-(
 
From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a skier in
the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder lying in the snow
without offering any assistance. The snowboarder was rammed by the skier who
was travelling at a very high speed.
--
Simon Brown
www.hb9drv.ch



cupra January 10th 05 11:09 AM

Simon Brown wrote:
From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a
skier in the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder lying
in the snow without offering any assistance. The snowboarder was
rammed by the skier who was travelling at a very high speed.


I suffered a few near misses from people on the edge of control throughout
the Sella Ronda this Xmas - the chances are slim, but let's hope the culprit
comes forward or is identified.



Simon Brown January 10th 05 11:11 AM

" cupra" wrote in message
...
Simon Brown wrote:
From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a
skier in the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder lying
in the snow without offering any assistance. The snowboarder was
rammed by the skier who was travelling at a very high speed.


I suffered a few near misses from people on the edge of control throughout
the Sella Ronda this Xmas - the chances are slim, but let's hope the

culprit
comes forward or is identified.



Maybe there will be more info in the Italian press / websites.
--
Simon Brown
www.hb9drv.ch




cupra January 10th 05 11:17 AM

Simon Brown wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message
...
Simon Brown wrote:
From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a
skier in the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder lying
in the snow without offering any assistance. The snowboarder was
rammed by the skier who was travelling at a very high speed.


I suffered a few near misses from people on the edge of control
throughout the Sella Ronda this Xmas - the chances are slim, but
let's hope the culprit comes forward or is identified.



Maybe there will be more info in the Italian press / websites.


They pretty much say the same, although it appears that there is a good
description of the offender.



Le Dieu January 10th 05 11:18 AM


" cupra" wrote in message
...
Simon Brown wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message
...
Simon Brown wrote:
From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a
skier in the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder lying
in the snow without offering any assistance. The snowboarder was
rammed by the skier who was travelling at a very high speed.

I suffered a few near misses from people on the edge of control
throughout the Sella Ronda this Xmas - the chances are slim, but
let's hope the culprit comes forward or is identified.



Maybe there will be more info in the Italian press / websites.


They pretty much say the same, although it appears that there is a good
description of the offender.



I can't believe someone wouldn't stop in those circumstances. They might
have been able to help. At least call for assistance. I hope they find him.

A. D.



cupra January 10th 05 11:26 AM

Le Dieu wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message
...
Simon Brown wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message
...
Simon Brown wrote:
From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer
gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a
skier in the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder
lying in the snow without offering any assistance. The
snowboarder was rammed by the skier who was travelling at a very
high speed.

I suffered a few near misses from people on the edge of control
throughout the Sella Ronda this Xmas - the chances are slim, but
let's hope the culprit comes forward or is identified.



Maybe there will be more info in the Italian press / websites.


They pretty much say the same, although it appears that there is a
good description of the offender.



I can't believe someone wouldn't stop in those circumstances. They
might have been able to help. At least call for assistance. I hope
they find him.


Yep - at the end of the day, any one of us could be a victim of something
like this.



Ace January 10th 05 11:49 AM

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:00:40 +0100, "Simon Brown"
wrote:

From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a skier in
the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder lying in the snow
without offering any assistance. The snowboarder was rammed by the skier who
was travelling at a very high speed.


I find this a bit like the fairly frequent "biker down" threads on
ukrm. I mean, was it anybody I know, or you know? If not, what's the
big deal? I mean, it's not _that_ unusual an occurence.

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

PG January 10th 05 11:50 AM


" cupra" wrote in message
...
| Le Dieu wrote:
| " cupra" wrote in message
| ...
| Simon Brown wrote:
| " cupra" wrote in message
| ...
| Simon Brown wrote:
| From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.
|
| "Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer
| gestorben"
|
| BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with
a
| skier in the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder
| lying in the snow without offering any assistance. The
| snowboarder was rammed by the skier who was travelling at a very
| high speed.
|
| I suffered a few near misses from people on the edge of control
| throughout the Sella Ronda this Xmas - the chances are slim, but
| let's hope the culprit comes forward or is identified.
|
|
|
| Maybe there will be more info in the Italian press / websites.
|
| They pretty much say the same, although it appears that there is a
| good description of the offender.
|
|
| I can't believe someone wouldn't stop in those circumstances. They
| might have been able to help. At least call for assistance. I hope
| they find him.
|
| Yep - at the end of the day, any one of us could be a victim of
something
| like this.

Would a helmet have helped? Who knows, but if it was a high speed
collision, along the lines of a racing skier hitting a stationary
boarder, it may not have made any difference. The Italians have got a
raft of new laws that affect this sort of incident now, which include
the criminal offence (along the lines of the well-established French
law) of "non-assistance to a person in danger"). Still the maximum
penalties are fines of 1000 euros, if I read the Italian press right.
Hit and runs like this should be punishable by minimum prison terms, if
the skier really was responsible.

Pete



cupra January 10th 05 11:52 AM

Ace wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:00:40 +0100, "Simon Brown"
wrote:

From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with a
skier in the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder lying
in the snow without offering any assistance. The snowboarder was
rammed by the skier who was travelling at a very high speed.


I find this a bit like the fairly frequent "biker down" threads on
ukrm. I mean, was it anybody I know, or you know? If not, what's the
big deal? I mean, it's not _that_ unusual an occurence.


The day a death on the slopes is treated as 'not a big deal' is the day I
think I'll hang up my boots.....



cupra January 10th 05 11:54 AM

PG wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message
...
Le Dieu wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message
...
Simon Brown wrote:
" cupra" wrote in message
...
Simon Brown wrote:
From www.tagesanzeiger.ch - a summary translated by myself.

"Snowboarder in Italien nach Zusammenstoss mit Skifahrer
gestorben"

BELLUNO - A 38 year-old snowboarder died after a collision with
a skier in the Dolomites. The skier left the injured snowboarder
lying in the snow without offering any assistance. The
snowboarder was rammed by the skier who was travelling at a very
high speed.

I suffered a few near misses from people on the edge of control
throughout the Sella Ronda this Xmas - the chances are slim, but
let's hope the culprit comes forward or is identified.



Maybe there will be more info in the Italian press / websites.

They pretty much say the same, although it appears that there is a
good description of the offender.


I can't believe someone wouldn't stop in those circumstances. They
might have been able to help. At least call for assistance. I hope
they find him.


Yep - at the end of the day, any one of us could be a victim of
something like this.


Would a helmet have helped? Who knows, but if it was a high speed
collision, along the lines of a racing skier hitting a stationary
boarder, it may not have made any difference. The Italians have got a
raft of new laws that affect this sort of incident now, which include
the criminal offence (along the lines of the well-established French
law) of "non-assistance to a person in danger"). Still the maximum
penalties are fines of 1000 euros, if I read the Italian press right.
Hit and runs like this should be punishable by minimum prison terms,
if the skier really was responsible.


You're absolutely right about not knowing the circumstances of the accident
and whether a helmet would have helped - all we know for sure is that the
low life didn't stop to assist.




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