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[email protected] October 14th 05 03:07 AM

Bindings from straight skiis suitable for for shaped?
 
I was just thinking. I have some older skiis here that have bindings
on them.

I was thinking I might be able to get away cheap by using the bindings
off of one of them on a set of shaped skiis, but then I got to thinking
they might be too wide?

I have a pair of Kneissl White StarRS (195cm) with some good looking
Salomon Driver 797 Bindings These bindings are in the best shape.

I also have a pair of Hart CompSL (200?) with some Marker M48 Titanium
bindings. These show a little more wear, but still in good working
order.

Will they fit a pair of shaped skiis? Something like Rossi Bandits or
Salomon X-Screams???


Buster


lal_truckee October 14th 05 03:55 AM

wrote:
I was just thinking. I have some older skiis here that have bindings
on them.

I was thinking I might be able to get away cheap by using the bindings
off of one of them on a set of shaped skiis, but then I got to thinking
they might be too wide?

I have a pair of Kneissl White StarRS (195cm) with some good looking
Salomon Driver 797 Bindings These bindings are in the best shape.


The 797s were still on indemnification list in 2004-5 - I don't know if
they still are, but it's likely.


I also have a pair of Hart CompSL (200?) with some Marker M48 Titanium
bindings. These show a little more wear, but still in good working
order.


Likewise the M48 Titanium.


Will they fit a pair of shaped skiis? Something like Rossi Bandits or
Salomon X-Screams???


Almost certainly. Shop might need to bend the brakes a bit if you were
to go for a very wide powder ski, but not for the kinds of skis you've
been talking about.


P.S. Wash out means the skis aren't torsionally stiff enough to maintain
edge angle under pressure - the shovels and tails twist releasing the
edge resulting in a skid.

Norm October 14th 05 04:11 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
I was just thinking. I have some older skiis here that have bindings
on them.

I was thinking I might be able to get away cheap by using the bindings
off of one of them on a set of shaped skiis, but then I got to thinking
they might be too wide?

I have a pair of Kneissl White StarRS (195cm) with some good looking
Salomon Driver 797 Bindings These bindings are in the best shape.

I also have a pair of Hart CompSL (200?) with some Marker M48 Titanium
bindings. These show a little more wear, but still in good working
order.

Will they fit a pair of shaped skiis? Something like Rossi Bandits or
Salomon X-Screams???


Almost any binding will fit almost any ski, but - Check here first;

http://www.nssra.com/2001/nssra/inde...cle&recno=2637

If they are not on this list theres not a shop that will touch them. Doesn't
matter if they are brand new in a sealed box, if they mount bindings not on
this list it could invalidate their liability insurance.

No,.its not a good idea to try and mount them yourself.



[email protected] October 14th 05 04:15 AM

Cool, excellent. Glad to hear that I'll be able to save a couple of
bucks.


Buster


[email protected] October 14th 05 04:24 AM

I'd never dream of mounting them myself. They're too important to let
me mess them up.

A friend with a Makita cordless drill and some JB Weld said he could
help me though. ;-)

I'll have either the local ski shop (Peter Glen) install them or take
them up to the shops in Pinetop, Arizona and have them do it.


Buster


MoonMan October 14th 05 08:23 AM

Norm wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
I was just thinking. I have some older skiis here that have bindings
on them.

I was thinking I might be able to get away cheap by using the
bindings off of one of them on a set of shaped skiis, but then I got
to thinking they might be too wide?

I have a pair of Kneissl White StarRS (195cm) with some good looking
Salomon Driver 797 Bindings These bindings are in the best shape.

I also have a pair of Hart CompSL (200?) with some Marker M48
Titanium bindings. These show a little more wear, but still in good
working order.

Will they fit a pair of shaped skiis? Something like Rossi Bandits
or Salomon X-Screams???


Almost any binding will fit almost any ski, but - Check here first;

http://www.nssra.com/2001/nssra/inde...cle&recno=2637

If they are not on this list theres not a shop that will touch them.
Doesn't matter if they are brand new in a sealed box, if they mount
bindings not on this list it could invalidate their liability
insurance.


I was going to say "only in America", but he is so carry on.....


No,.its not a good idea to try and mount them yourself.


Unless you can borrow the correct Mounting Jig and Drill :)


--
Chris *:-)

Downhill Good, Uphill BAD!

www.suffolkvikings.org.uk



ant October 14th 05 03:05 PM

wrote:
I was just thinking. I have some older skiis here that have bindings
on them.


As long as they're indemnified, they should be OK. I used to use 2nd hand
Quadrax rental bindings. they were excellent. 2 seasons a year, never a pre
release and good honest timely releases when needed.



--
ant



Bill Tuthill October 14th 05 05:48 PM

Buster, hard to know how safe the older bindings are. I would say
more progress has been made since 1980 in binding technology
than in ski technology. Skis go thru fads of dubious value to the skiier
(short, sidecut, fat, being some recent fads).

E.g. new Marker bindings with variable toe release and active AFD (metal)
might be well worth $169 (piston $199) in saving your knees.

lal_truckee wrote:

P.S. Wash out means the skis aren't torsionally stiff enough to maintain
edge angle under pressure - the shovels and tails twist releasing the
edge resulting in a skid.


Oh! Thanks for the definition. Recent Rossignol Bandit skis have good
torsional rigidity and relatively high tail rigidity, but the tips
are relatively flaccid. This is one reason whey they are so forgiving
in variable conditions.

If you believe Skiing magazine, the 2005 Bandit B2 was top-rated
in several categories (October 2004). Props: to plush feel and
all-mountain performance. Gripes: lacks power and precision.



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