Re: Ramen Noodles

[Jay Pique]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:20:23 GMT, "suds" wrote:

>
>"Horvath" wrote....
>
>> Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!
>
>Slowly but surely you Wal-Mart shoppers are finally waking up and realizing
>that you've been lied to. A lie that has cost thousands of lives and $100B
>at least.

>Dubya's going down. Yee Haa! Now, if we can only gather up all the morons
>who repeated his lies and insisted they were true and take them out and
>shoot them. I think it's justified. This country would be better off
>without them. Let's start with Rush, then Savage, then Coulter, then...
>Man!, I don't own a gun but just thinking about this has got me drooling.

My thought is that Ghandi had it right - passive resistance is the
only path to true enlightenment. We should eliminate the military in
its entirety, turn the other cheek, and seek solace in God. By
setting such an example we would become loved by all nations, and
world peace would become a reality.

Peace and love,
Jay Pique

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Jay Pique > typed:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:20:23 GMT, "suds" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Horvath" wrote....
> >
> > > Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!
> >
> > Slowly but surely you Wal-Mart shoppers are finally waking up and
> > realizing that you've been lied to. A lie that has cost thousands
> > of lives and $100B at least.
>
> > Dubya's going down. Yee Haa! Now, if we can only gather up all
> > the morons who repeated his lies and insisted they were true and
> > take them out and shoot them. I think it's justified. This
> > country would be better off without them. Let's start with Rush,
> > then Savage, then Coulter, then... Man!, I don't own a gun but just
> > thinking about this has got me drooling.
>
> My thought is that Ghandi had it right - passive resistance is the
> only path to true enlightenment. We should eliminate the military in
> its entirety, turn the other cheek, and seek solace in God. By
> setting such an example we would become loved by all nations, and
> world peace would become a reality.

And then pigs will fly out your butt? ;-)
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Richard Henry]

Jay Pique > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:20:23 GMT, "suds" wrote:
>
> >
> >"Horvath" wrote....
> >
> >> Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!
> >
> >Slowly but surely you Wal-Mart shoppers are finally waking up and
realizing
> >that you've been lied to. A lie that has cost thousands of lives and
$100B
> >at least.
>
> >Dubya's going down. Yee Haa! Now, if we can only gather up all the
morons
> >who repeated his lies and insisted they were true and take them out and
> >shoot them. I think it's justified. This country would be better off
> >without them. Let's start with Rush, then Savage, then Coulter, then...
> >Man!, I don't own a gun but just thinking about this has got me drooling.
>
> My thought is that Ghandi had it right - passive resistance is the
> only path to true enlightenment. We should eliminate the military in
> its entirety, turn the other cheek, and seek solace in God. By
> setting such an example we would become loved by all nations, and
> world peace would become a reality.
>
> Peace and love,
> Jay Pique

Hey, guys! Free beers at Jay's house.

Just help yourself. He won't mind.

Or at least he won't say anything.

[Jay Pique]

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:36:39 -0700, "Richard Henry" >
wrote:

>
>Jay Pique wrote...
>> My thought is that Ghandi had it right - passive resistance is the
>> only path to true enlightenment. We should eliminate the military in
>> its entirety, turn the other cheek, and seek solace in God. By
>> setting such an example we would become loved by all nations, and
>> world peace would become a reality.
>>
>> Peace and love,
>> Jay Pique
>
>Hey, guys! Free beers at Jay's house.
>
>Just help yourself. He won't mind.
>
>Or at least he won't say anything.

Wait just a minute there - murdering dictators, starvation at the
hands of warlords, and living under the threat of terror I can deal
with. But you will only take my beer WHEN YOU CAN PRY IT FROM MY DEAD
COLD FINGERS!!!

Plus, it's Coors Extra Gold anyways. I figure that eliminates at
least 90% of the folks here at rec.skiing.beersnobs....

JP
****************************************
Lived in Belgium. Loved the beer. Still drink Bud (and Duvel).

[bdubya]

On 15 Jul 2003 01:51:35 GMT, Terd >
wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:26:45 -0500, bdubya >
>wrote this crap:
>
>>
>>Sitting out the Mac again, huh?
>
>I've never done the Mac.

Wuss.

bw

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Jay Pique > typed:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:36:39 -0700, "Richard Henry" >
> wrote:

> > Hey, guys! Free beers at Jay's house.
> >
> > Just help yourself. He won't mind.
> >
> > Or at least he won't say anything.
>
> Wait just a minute there - murdering dictators, starvation at the
> hands of warlords, and living under the threat of terror I can deal
> with. But you will only take my beer WHEN YOU CAN PRY IT FROM MY DEAD
> COLD FINGERS!!!
>
> Plus, it's Coors Extra Gold anyways. I figure that eliminates at
> least 90% of the folks here at rec.skiing.beersnobs....
>
> JP
> ****************************************
> Lived in Belgium. Loved the beer. Still drink Bud (and Duvel).

LOL
--
Mike

[scottabe]

> In news:Jay Pique > typed:
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:36:39 -0700, "Richard Henry" >
>> wrote:
>
>>> Hey, guys! Free beers at Jay's house.
>>>
>>> Just help yourself. He won't mind.
>>>
>>> Or at least he won't say anything.
>>
>> Wait just a minute there - murdering dictators, starvation at the
>> hands of warlords, and living under the threat of terror I can deal
>> with. But you will only take my beer WHEN YOU CAN PRY IT FROM MY DEAD
>> COLD FINGERS!!!
>>
>> Plus, it's Coors Extra Gold anyways. I figure that eliminates at
>> least 90% of the folks here at rec.skiing.beersnobs....

Nah. Drunks will drink anything.

[suds]

"Jay Pique" > wrote in message
...

> My thought is that Ghandi had it right - passive resistance is the
> only path to true enlightenment. We should eliminate the military in
> its entirety, turn the other cheek, and seek solace in God. By
> setting such an example we would become loved by all nations, and
> world peace would become a reality.
>

Scuba divers suffer from nitrogen narcosis, is there an equivalent when it
comes to skiing?


suds

[suds]

"Jay Pique" > wrote in message
...
>
> Wait just a minute there - murdering dictators, starvation at the
> hands of warlords, and living under the threat of terror I can deal
> with. But you will only take my beer WHEN YOU CAN PRY IT FROM MY DEAD
> COLD FINGERS!!!
>
> Plus, it's Coors Extra Gold anyways. I figure that eliminates at
> least 90% of the folks here at rec.skiing.beersnobs....
>

Right after I shoot all the conservatives, I plan on passing very strict
beer quality laws. Before you complain, let you know that this will not be
easy for me. One of my wife's best friends from undergrad is a Coors. He's
a d@mn nice guy but we've never seen eye to eye when it comes to beer.
C|;^{)


suds

[Mary Malmros]

Jay Pique > writes:

> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:36:39 -0700, "Richard Henry" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jay Pique wrote...
> >> My thought is that Ghandi had it right - passive resistance is the
> >> only path to true enlightenment. We should eliminate the military in
> >> its entirety, turn the other cheek, and seek solace in God. By
> >> setting such an example we would become loved by all nations, and
> >> world peace would become a reality.
> >>
> >> Peace and love,
> >> Jay Pique
> >
> >Hey, guys! Free beers at Jay's house.
> >
> >Just help yourself. He won't mind.
> >
> >Or at least he won't say anything.
>
> Wait just a minute there - murdering dictators, starvation at the
> hands of warlords, and living under the threat of terror I can deal
> with. But you will only take my beer WHEN YOU CAN PRY IT FROM MY DEAD
> COLD FINGERS!!!
>
> Plus, it's Coors Extra Gold anyways. I figure that eliminates at
> least 90% of the folks here at rec.skiing.beersnobs....

Coors is for hoors.

--
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Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield,
Other days you're the bug.

[lal_truckee]

Mike Speegle wrote:

>
>
> Well, your diatribe indicated you wanted to go after those with
> rightish opinions.

Actually it sounds like a Rush/Savage paraphrase ...

Meanwhile, back at the skiranch:
Visited my brother in S Oregon over the WE. Spent lots of time on his
deck looking through binoculars at a tiny patch of snow about 30 miles
away, cupped in under a north facing ridge. Almost grabbed the boards
and started walking; except I didn't bring the boards, and there was
still beer in the fridge ...

[Mike Speegle]

In news:lal_truckee > typed:
> Mike Speegle wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Well, your diatribe indicated you wanted to go after those with
> > rightish opinions.
>
> Actually it sounds like a Rush/Savage paraphrase ...

Actually, calling for "shooting" the opposition sounds a lot more
like anarchy than Americanism. I've never heard the right (Rush
included) call for shooting the other side. YMMV
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Mary Malmros]

"Mike Speegle" > writes:

> In news:lal_truckee > typed:
> > Mike Speegle wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, your diatribe indicated you wanted to go after those with
> > > rightish opinions.
> >
> > Actually it sounds like a Rush/Savage paraphrase ...
>
> Actually, calling for "shooting" the opposition sounds a lot more
> like anarchy than Americanism. I've never heard the right (Rush
> included) call for shooting the other side. YMMV

No? How about Ann Coulter?

Watch out for them suspicious-looking swarthy males, y'hear? And if
they get cheeky with ya, just shoot 'em.

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Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield,
Other days you're the bug.

[pigo]

"Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
...
> "Mike Speegle" > writes:
>
> > In news:lal_truckee > typed:
> > > Mike Speegle wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, your diatribe indicated you wanted to go after those
with
> > > > rightish opinions.
> > >
> > > Actually it sounds like a Rush/Savage paraphrase ...
> >
> > Actually, calling for "shooting" the opposition sounds a lot
more
> > like anarchy than Americanism. I've never heard the right (Rush
> > included) call for shooting the other side. YMMV
>
> No? How about Ann Coulter?

I've never heard her advocate violence against innocent people with a
different point of view. Have you?

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Kurt Knisely > typed:

> > Actually, calling for "shooting" the opposition sounds a lot more
> > like anarchy than Americanism. I've never heard the right (Rush
> > included) call for shooting the other side. YMMV
>
> Those motorheads in the "Sahara Club" thread last week pretty much
> said that. It brought me into the fray. As Doc Sarvis said "anarchy
> is not the answer".

That thread was *too* cross-posted and had too many loonies. I
started ignoring pretty quickly and am still ignoring it. Threads
cross-posted to more than about 3 groups are trolls looking for trouble.
YMMV
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:pigo > typed:
> "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Mike Speegle" > writes:
> >
> > > In news:lal_truckee > typed:
> > > > Mike Speegle wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, your diatribe indicated you wanted to go after
> > > > > those with rightish opinions.
> > > >
> > > > Actually it sounds like a Rush/Savage paraphrase ...
> > >
> > > Actually, calling for "shooting" the opposition sounds a lot
> > > more like anarchy than Americanism. I've never heard the right
> > > (Rush included) call for shooting the other side. YMMV
> >
> > No? How about Ann Coulter?
>
> I've never heard her advocate violence against innocent people with a
> different point of view. Have you?

I certainly haven't. When she has appeared on Bill Mahre's show on
HBO, she stays cool and composed and the lefties talking *at* her appear
like raving lunatics and screaming at her. I know that she's
conservative but I have not read her nor do I care. I just find it
*very* interesting when left and right get in a panel discussion which
side usually ends up frothing at the mouth and screaming and appearing
non-sensical and emotional. (Hint: it ain't the rightist folks.) Don't
lefties actually see themselves and how they *appear* publicly. It's
downright embarrassing. BTW, I'm a registered Democrat in a Republican
state. Kinda harkens back to my rebellious child of the 60's roots.
Going against the majority and all that rot. ;-)
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Crashj]

Jay Pique > wrote in message >...
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:39:57 -0500, bdubya >
> wrote:
>
> >On 15 Jul 2003 01:51:35 GMT, Terd >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:26:45 -0500, bdubya >
> >>wrote this crap:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Sitting out the Mac again, huh?
> >>
> >>I've never done the Mac.
> >
> >Wuss.
>
> Explain please. Bedankt.
>
> JP

Its a boat thing. Horvie is a boat thing. He should be cruising, not posting.

Crashj 'sowhatsupwiththateh?' Johnson

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/6296641.htm

[pigo]

"Mike Speegle" > wrote in message
...
> In news:pigo > typed:
> > "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > "Mike Speegle" > writes:
> > >
> > > > In news:lal_truckee > typed:
> > > > > Mike Speegle wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, your diatribe indicated you wanted to go after
> > > > > > those with rightish opinions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually it sounds like a Rush/Savage paraphrase ...
> > > >
> > > > Actually, calling for "shooting" the opposition sounds a lot
> > > > more like anarchy than Americanism. I've never heard the right
> > > > (Rush included) call for shooting the other side. YMMV
> > >
> > > No? How about Ann Coulter?
> >
> > I've never heard her advocate violence against innocent people with
a
> > different point of view. Have you?
>
> I certainly haven't. When she has appeared on Bill Mahre's show
on
> HBO, she stays cool and composed and the lefties talking *at* her
appear
> like raving lunatics and screaming at her. I know that she's
> conservative but I have not read her nor do I care. I just find it
> *very* interesting when left and right get in a panel discussion which
> side usually ends up frothing at the mouth and screaming and appearing
> non-sensical and emotional. (Hint: it ain't the rightist folks.)


It's funny. She is usually reduced to laughing at them.

> Don't
> lefties actually see themselves and how they *appear* publicly. It's
> downright embarrassing. BTW, I'm a registered Democrat in a
Republican
> state. Kinda harkens back to my rebellious child of the 60's roots.
> Going against the majority and all that rot. ;-)

Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:pigo > typed:
> "Mike Speegle" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In news:pigo > typed:
> > > "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > "Mike Speegle" > writes:
> > > >
> > > > > In news:lal_truckee > typed:
> > > > > > Mike Speegle wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, your diatribe indicated you wanted to go after
> > > > > > > those with rightish opinions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually it sounds like a Rush/Savage paraphrase ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, calling for "shooting" the opposition sounds a
> > > > > lot more like anarchy than Americanism. I've never heard the
> > > > > right (Rush included) call for shooting the other side. YMMV
> > > >
> > > > No? How about Ann Coulter?
> > >
> > > I've never heard her advocate violence against innocent people
> > > with a different point of view. Have you?
> >
> > I certainly haven't. When she has appeared on Bill Mahre's
> > show on HBO, she stays cool and composed and the lefties talking
> > *at* her appear like raving lunatics and screaming at her. I know
> > that she's conservative but I have not read her nor do I care. I
> > just find it *very* interesting when left and right get in a panel
> > discussion which side usually ends up frothing at the mouth and
> > screaming and appearing non-sensical and emotional. (Hint: it
> > ain't the rightist folks.)
>
>
> It's funny. She is usually reduced to laughing at them.
>
> > Don't
> > lefties actually see themselves and how they *appear* publicly.
> > It's downright embarrassing. BTW, I'm a registered Democrat in a
> > Republican state. Kinda harkens back to my rebellious child of the
> > 60's roots. Going against the majority and all that rot. ;-)
>
> Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Mike Speegle > typed:
> In news:pigo > typed:
> > "Mike Speegle" > wrote in message
> > ...
>
> > > Don't
> > > lefties actually see themselves and how they *appear* publicly.
> > > It's downright embarrassing. BTW, I'm a registered Democrat in a
> > > Republican state. Kinda harkens back to my rebellious child of
> > > the 60's roots. Going against the majority and all that rot. ;-)
> >
> > Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.
>
> Hardly. 2 Republican senators and 5 of 7 Republican reps. Denver
> and Boulder are Democratic, usually. But the entire rest of the state
> is Republican, and strongly.

In looking back (via the 2003 World Almanac) since '52 Colorado has
majority voted for the Democrat candidate only once in '64 barely over
Goldwater. Every other presidential election Colorado votes Republican.
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:suds <sudsysadie@hawaii{is the #1 state for Spam
eaters}.rr.com> typed:

> Now, what have you done to make this a better nation?

Oh and so you don't think I'm ignoring this one, I served for 3
years in the Army from Oct. '70 to Oct. '73. I enlisted to evade the
draft. PHTHBPBPPBBTH!
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Let Mikey Ski It! > typed:
> Mike Speegle wrote:
> > ... BTW, I'm a registered Democrat in a Republican
> > state. Kinda harkens back to my rebellious child of the 60's roots.
> > Going against the majority and all that rot. ;-)
>
> Heh. That reminds me of going to school in Boulder. I learned that if
> you were to be a non-conformist, you had to conform. You couldn't
> dress this way, you had to be against this political party, you had
> to support this struggle ... or you were not a real non-conformist. I
> did not buy into that and decided I'll ski my own lines in life.

I get such a kick out of each new trend that comes along for kids
(pre-teens and teens). It's great watching them seeking their own
identity and trying to be different...just like everybody else. ;-)
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Mary Malmros > typed:
> "Mike Speegle" > writes:

> Are you able to quantify this? Or, lacking that, can you provide a
> little background? What "panel discussions" are you talking about,
> what's your sample size, and what are the instances of "frothing at
> the mouth and screaming and appearing non-sensical and emotional"?

Watch Bill Mahre's show on HBO. There's no holds barred and the
lefties come of as raging idealogues most of the time. As I said I'm
fairly middle of the road, but lefties need to look in the mirror to see
how they come off publicly. It is embarassing. If you don't have HBO
then sorry. As for my opinions, they are just that my opinions and
impressions on round table discussions. I can't quantify my opinions
for you, sorry.
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Jay Pique]

On 15 Jul 2003 20:38:52 -0400, Mary Malmros > wrote:

>"Mike Speegle" > writes:
>
>> In news:pigo > typed:
>> > "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > "Mike Speegle" > writes:
>> > >
>> > > > In news:lal_truckee > typed:
>> > > > > Mike Speegle wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Well, your diatribe indicated you wanted to go after
>> > > > > > those with rightish opinions.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Actually it sounds like a Rush/Savage paraphrase ...
>> > > >
>> > > > Actually, calling for "shooting" the opposition sounds a lot
>> > > > more like anarchy than Americanism. I've never heard the right
>> > > > (Rush included) call for shooting the other side. YMMV
>> > >
>> > > No? How about Ann Coulter?
>> >
>> > I've never heard her advocate violence against innocent people with a
>> > different point of view. Have you?
>>
>> I certainly haven't. When she has appeared on Bill Mahre's show on
>> HBO, she stays cool and composed and the lefties talking *at* her appear
>> like raving lunatics and screaming at her. I know that she's
>> conservative but I have not read her nor do I care.
>
>If you want some quotes that'll turn your hair white, you have but
>to ask.
>
>> I just find it
>> *very* interesting when left and right get in a panel discussion which
>> side usually ends up frothing at the mouth and screaming and appearing
>> non-sensical and emotional.
>
>Are you able to quantify this? Or, lacking that, can you provide a
>little background? What "panel discussions" are you talking about,
>what's your sample size, and what are the instances of "frothing at
>the mouth and screaming and appearing non-sensical and emotional"?....

.....she shrieked while foaming at the mouth.

JP
**********************
Calmly enunciating.

[scottabe]

in article , Mike Speegle at
wrote on 7/15/03 9:35 AM:

> In news:lal_truckee > typed:
>> Mike Speegle wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, your diatribe indicated you wanted to go after those with
>>> rightish opinions.
>>
>> Actually it sounds like a Rush/Savage paraphrase ...
>
> Actually, calling for "shooting" the opposition sounds a lot more
> like anarchy than Americanism. I've never heard the right (Rush
> included) call for shooting the other side. YMMV

Your buddies have called for shooting ME and you buy them beers. What an
asshole!

[pigo]

"Mike Speegle" > wrote in message
...


> In looking back (via the 2003 World Almanac) since '52 Colorado
has
> majority voted for the Democrat candidate only once in '64 barely over
> Goldwater. Every other presidential election Colorado votes
Republican.

I hadn't paid any particular attention. I just got that impression.

Outside the ski resorts and Denver it's a very rural, ranch type of
place. And that does spell
R e p u b l i c a n

[pigo]

"Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
...


> Are you able to quantify this? Or, lacking that, can you provide a
> little background? What "panel discussions" are you talking about,
> what's your sample size, and what are the instances of "frothing at
> the mouth and screaming and appearing non-sensical and emotional"?

How about (was it?) Jeff Bridges on the Tonight Show.

[pigo]

"Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
...

> Alas, don't get it. Anything that's more accessible to those of us
> who don't want to pay extra money for stuff we're mostly not gonna
> watch?

O'reilly on Foxnews gets some pretty loony lefty's. That's on regular
cable.

[Jay Pique]

On 15 Jul 2003 21:42:54 -0400, Mary Malmros > wrote:

>"Mike Speegle" > writes:
>
>> In news:Mary Malmros > typed:
>> > "Mike Speegle" > writes:
>>
>> > Are you able to quantify this? Or, lacking that, can you provide a
>> > little background? What "panel discussions" are you talking about,
>> > what's your sample size, and what are the instances of "frothing at
>> > the mouth and screaming and appearing non-sensical and emotional"?
>>
>> Watch Bill Mahre's show on HBO.
>
>Alas, don't get it. Anything that's more accessible to those of us
>who don't want to pay extra money for stuff we're mostly not gonna
>watch?

I found the programming on HBO to be excellent at times, and well
worth having. I loved the Sopranos and the Real Sex stuff - between
that and say 2 movies a month it'd more than pay for itself.

JP
************************************************** ***********************************
Attention ex-roommate Paul Hubbard, you ****ed us on the cable bill
and we think you stole the powerwash

>> There's no holds barred and the
>> lefties come of as raging idealogues most of the time. As I said I'm
>> fairly middle of the road, but lefties need to look in the mirror to see
>> how they come off publicly. It is embarassing. If you don't have HBO
>> then sorry. As for my opinions, they are just that my opinions and
>> impressions on round table discussions. I can't quantify my opinions
>> for you, sorry.
>
>I don't expect you to quantify them, but that's kind of the point.
>Opinions that include phrases like "most x do y" suggest -- falsely
>-- that the expresser of the opinion does, in fact, have some
>quantitative basis for what they say. I understand that it gets
>kind of silly after a short while, saying, "Based on my experience,
>it is my perception that..." and that it's tempting to just say,
>"Most x do y". But when you're talking about trends of entire broad
>segments of the political spectrum, such qualifiers are perhaps more
>important than in other situations.

[pigo]

"The Real Bev" > wrote in message
...


> > Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.
>
> So is California. I am reminded of two things: Gene Wilder yelling
"I am
> very UNIQUE!" in a crowd of men who look exactly like him, and my Gary
> Larson cup showing a lot of penguins, one of whom is singing "I gotta
be
> MEEEEEEEE!"
>
> The counter-culture is conservative now. Feel conflicted?

I *know* CA is. Did you sign a real Davis re-call petition or one of
those that they were putting out to divert signatures?

[Jay Pique]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:10:22 -0600, Jay Pique >
wrote:

>...Sex stuff - between
>that and say 2 movies a month it'd more than pay for itself.

Pardon me -

>JP
>************************************************** ***********************************
>Attention ex-roommate Paul Hubbard, you ****ed us on the cable bill
>and we think you stole the powerwash...

....we think you stole the powerwasher too, so expect some seriously
****ty karma to be coming down the line REAL soon.

JP

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Mary Malmros > typed:
> "Mike Speegle" > writes:
>
> > In news:Mary Malmros > typed:
> > > "Mike Speegle" > writes:
> >
> > > Are you able to quantify this? Or, lacking that, can you provide
> > > a little background? What "panel discussions" are you talking
> > > about, what's your sample size, and what are the instances of
> > > "frothing at the mouth and screaming and appearing non-sensical
> > > and emotional"?
> >
> > Watch Bill Mahre's show on HBO.
>
> Alas, don't get it. Anything that's more accessible to those of us
> who don't want to pay extra money for stuff we're mostly not gonna
> watch?

No because I usually don't pay attention *that* closely to the
talking head shows. I didn't watch Bill Mahre on free TV all that much
either. Mainly because one of his friends and frequent guests is Ariana
Huffington and the token conservative is usually set up as a target for
humorous purposes. And Ariana, good gawd what an annoying loudmouth who
won't let the other side complete a thought without butting in with her
oh so impressive intellect.

> > There's no holds barred and the
> > lefties come of as raging idealogues most of the time. As I said
> > I'm fairly middle of the road, but lefties need to look in the
> > mirror to see how they come off publicly. It is embarassing. If
> > you don't have HBO then sorry. As for my opinions, they are just
> > that my opinions and impressions on round table discussions. I
> > can't quantify my opinions for you, sorry.
>
> I don't expect you to quantify them, but that's kind of the point.
> Opinions that include phrases like "most x do y" suggest -- falsely
> -- that the expresser of the opinion does, in fact, have some
> quantitative basis for what they say. I understand that it gets
> kind of silly after a short while, saying, "Based on my experience,
> it is my perception that..." and that it's tempting to just say,
> "Most x do y". But when you're talking about trends of entire broad
> segments of the political spectrum, such qualifiers are perhaps more
> important than in other situations.

My impressions usually come from the politicians that appear on the
talking head shows. Most politicians, both sides, are dishonest,
evasive smarmy buttmunchers who mostly wouldn't answer a straight
question if their political office depended on it. And letting either
side complete a thought is simply not on the game plan. But *if* you
ever get HBO, watch Bill's show (or get a friend to tape it) and you'll
see what I mean. But since you brought up Ann Coulter and I've only
seen her on that show, I feel she comes off as cool, logical and
non-emotional as a counter-point to the lefties that he puts on.

Now I also recognise that ratings are important and controversy
sells and Bill *undoubtedly* stacks the panel with outspoken people.
Bill strikes me as a leftie yet his guest lefties appear like
overemotional simps. By design? Who knows. :-/
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:pigo > typed:
> "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
> > Are you able to quantify this? Or, lacking that, can you provide a
> > little background? What "panel discussions" are you talking about,
> > what's your sample size, and what are the instances of "frothing at
> > the mouth and screaming and appearing non-sensical and emotional"?
>
> How about (was it?) Jeff Bridges on the Tonight Show.

Ooh, I missed that. Was it good? ;-) And when the hell are
Baldwin and Streisand and the others leaving the country? I'm
waiting...
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[The Real Bev]

pigo wrote:
>
> "The Real Bev" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > > Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.
> >
> > So is California. I am reminded of two things: Gene Wilder yelling
> "I am
> > very UNIQUE!" in a crowd of men who look exactly like him, and my Gary
> > Larson cup showing a lot of penguins, one of whom is singing "I gotta
> be
> > MEEEEEEEE!"
> >
> > The counter-culture is conservative now. Feel conflicted?
>
> I *know* CA is. Did you sign a real Davis re-call petition or one of
> those that they were putting out to divert signatures?

I'm pretty sure it was real -- but I can't remember why.

--
Cheers,
Bev
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%
Sign on restroom hand-dryer:
"Push button for a message from your congressman."

[bdubya]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:09:32 -0600, "pigo"
> wrote:

>
>"Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Alas, don't get it. Anything that's more accessible to those of us
>> who don't want to pay extra money for stuff we're mostly not gonna
>> watch?
>
>O'reilly on Foxnews gets some pretty loony lefty's. That's on regular
>cable.
>

O'Reilly can also be seen on the web, melting down under the withering
invective of...... Al Franken.
(http://www.booktv.org/misc/BookExpo_053103.asp , the third "watch"
link, for the "Book and Author Luncheon" . It's kind of long, though)

bw

[lal_truckee]

Mike Speegle wrote:

> You do battle in the
> voting booth in this country, not in the streets.

Both Nixon(R) and Bush(R) tried to subvert that sentiment.

IMO Bush actually succeeded. Even if you believe he didn't, just the
fact that half the country believes he did, is cause for alarm IMO. I
fear we are living in the decades historians in 3 or 4 centuries will
refer to as the Collapse of the American Republic.

But so what - Let's talk about something that's Actually Important! I'm
going to claim global warming will be good for the skiing - more
moisture in the air means more snow. As long as temperatures are below
freezing it doesn't matter if they're 31deg or 20deg, unless you're one
of those Collyradians or Youtards who can't ski good California Extreme
Powder. Even the presumed downside (the middle of the continent will
likely warm up to 33deg, instead of stopping at 31deg) is not really a
downside - it'll safe me the costs of my annual road trip.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Vern93 > typed:

> An interesting exercise (if time permits) is to look at www.hbo.com
> and read the message boards about "Real Time." The consensus of the
> posters to that site disagree w/ you 100% They talk about how
> screechy the conservatives are, and how absolutely brillant and well
> reasoned Ariana H. is.

Reading this kind of stuff is only entertaining for, um, maybe
nanoseconds. I usually record Real Time so I can ffw past Miss H as
I've now reached my limit with that gawd awful nasal holier than thou
voice of hers. Yuck! Ptew.

Apparently she was partly or in whole responsible for the SUV
bashing campaign "What Would Jesus Drive." When she was called on it on
RL, she woofed and waffled and then admitted it was all in fun and you
shouldn't take it *that* seriously. She wouldn't even back something
she was for in the first place.

> Did you see the one where the liberal folks were hell bent on blaming
> SARS on antibiotic overuse

Sooooooo overuse of antibiotics, which *does* create resistant
BACTERIA, is now thought to affect viruses? What a stupid and ignorant
idea.

> and "american immediate gratification" the
> conservative radio guy didn't know how to participate in that
> nonsensical conversation. All he could say (quite sensibly) was "but
> SARS is caused by a virus."

Exactly. And and and the newkewlar stuff is evil bad and nasty too
uh huh. ;-)

> I agree with your take on the show, but it's pretty interesting to
> read the opinions of those who disagree. It makes me say, "Whaaaat!?"

As I've said I'm fairly MOR, but the vitriol and spittle-spraying
invective by supposed open-minded people blows my mind. Kumbaya, all
opinions are valid, kumbaya. Bull****. All people can have different
opinions and biases but that doesn't make them all right. They CAN'T be
all right. What maroons. ;-)
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY! >
typed:

> Actually, let me kindly ask that you not post any unless they're ski
> related. I don't want this off-topic thread to branch. Can't someone
> just hurry up and call someone else a Nazi or something?

Welcome to summer you fuggin' Nazi. ;-)
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[pigo]

"Mike Speegle" > wrote in message
...
> In news:pigo > typed:
> > "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >
> > > Are you able to quantify this? Or, lacking that, can you provide
a
> > > little background? What "panel discussions" are you talking
about,
> > > what's your sample size, and what are the instances of "frothing
at
> > > the mouth and screaming and appearing non-sensical and emotional"?
> >
> > How about (was it?) Jeff Bridges on the Tonight Show.
>
> Ooh, I missed that. Was it good? ;-) And when the hell are
> Baldwin and Streisand and the others leaving the country? I'm
> waiting...

It was exactly what you were describing. Jumping around swinging his
arms like an ape screaming about how Ken Starr should be killed. It was
good in that it showed some true colors.

[pigo]

"Mike Speegle" > wrote in message
...

> No because I usually don't pay attention *that* closely to the
> talking head shows. I didn't watch Bill Mahre on free TV all that
much
> either. Mainly because one of his friends and frequent guests is
Ariana
> Huffington and the token conservative is usually set up as a target
for
> humorous purposes. And Ariana, good gawd what an annoying loudmouth
who
> won't let the other side complete a thought without butting in with
her
> oh so impressive intellect.

She's the one that has the problem with SUV's and the gas they use.
But.....lives in a 10,000 square foot house and takes private jets.

[scottabe]

in article , pigo at
wrote on 7/15/03 9:36 PM:

>
> "bdubya" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:09:32 -0600, "pigo"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Alas, don't get it. Anything that's more accessible to those of us
>>>> who don't want to pay extra money for stuff we're mostly not gonna
>>>> watch?
>>>
>>> O'reilly on Foxnews gets some pretty loony lefty's. That's on regular
>>> cable.
>>>
>>
>> O'Reilly can also be seen on the web, melting down under the withering
>> invective of...... Al Franken.
>> (http://www.booktv.org/misc/BookExpo_053103.asp , the third "watch"
>> link, for the "Book and Author Luncheon" . It's kind of long, though)
>
> Oh yeah.There's another one. I forgot about al franken. He's alot like
> o/O. No argument, just name calling.
>
>
This from a psychpathic liar who continues to falsely accuse me of molesting
children, yet refuses to engage in discussion about the criminal behavior on
rsa?
Cocaine truly does rot the brain.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Sven Golly > typed:
> "Mike Speegle" > wrote in
> :
>
> > > I thought it was Mayor Richard Daley (D) who did that.
> >
> > He did it for the first Nixon (R) election.
>
> No, it was for Hubert Humphrey's (D) convention.

I thought you were talking of the '60 election where Daley delivered
Chicago / Illinois / the election to the Kennedys. I just remember the
nightmare that was '68 and wish I could forget. One of the episodes of
"From The Earth to The Moon" is entitled "1968" and reflects on all that
happened that awful year.
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[The Real Bev]

pigo wrote:
>
> "The Real Bev" > wrote:
>
> > pigo wrote:
> > >
> > > "The Real Bev" > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.
> > > >
> > > > So is California. I am reminded of two things: Gene Wilder
> > > > yelling "I am
> > > > very UNIQUE!" in a crowd of men who look exactly like him, and my
> > > > Gary Larson cup showing a lot of penguins, one of whom is singing "I
> > > > gotta be MEEEEEEEE!"
> > > >
> > > > The counter-culture is conservative now. Feel conflicted?
> > >
> > > I *know* CA is. Did you sign a real Davis re-call petition or one of
> > > those that they were putting out to divert signatures?
> >
> > I'm pretty sure it was real -- but I can't remember why.
>
> There's a pretty good example of Democratic tactics though eh?

It doesn't seem to have worked. Nobody is above dirty tricks, but some
are better than others.

--
Cheers,
Bev
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
maintaining a free civil government."
-- letter from Thomas Jefferson to Baron vonHumboldt, 1813

[The Real Bev]

pigo wrote:
>
> "bdubya" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:09:32 -0600, "pigo"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > >> Alas, don't get it. Anything that's more accessible to those of us
> > >> who don't want to pay extra money for stuff we're mostly not gonna
> > >> watch?
> > >
> > >O'reilly on Foxnews gets some pretty loony lefty's. That's on regular
> > >cable.
> > >
> >
> > O'Reilly can also be seen on the web, melting down under the withering
> > invective of...... Al Franken.
> > (http://www.booktv.org/misc/BookExpo_053103.asp , the third "watch"
> > link, for the "Book and Author Luncheon" . It's kind of long, though)
>
> Oh yeah.There's another one. I forgot about al franken. He's alot like
> o/O. No argument, just name calling.

He used to be funny. Whatever happened to Davis, anyway?

--
Cheers,
Bev
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
maintaining a free civil government."
-- letter from Thomas Jefferson to Baron vonHumboldt, 1813

[suds]

"Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY!" > wrote in message
...

Sorry bud, ski seasons over. This is just what this group needed to liven
things up. Always works great over in rec.scuba and there is no off-season
there. LOL


suds

[Mary Malmros]

"pigo" > writes:

> "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
> > Are you able to quantify this? Or, lacking that, can you provide a
> > little background? What "panel discussions" are you talking about,
> > what's your sample size, and what are the instances of "frothing at
> > the mouth and screaming and appearing non-sensical and emotional"?
>
> How about (was it?) Jeff Bridges on the Tonight Show.

Okay, so that's a sample size of one. Didn't see it, but I'll take
your word for it.

Gotta point out, folks, that an individual incident may make a
strong impression, but it doesn't make a trend. Furthermore --
which was really my point in this thread -- if you want to disavow
those whackos who are self-proclaimed members of your favorite
segment of the political spectrum, or what have you, you must allow
others the same. Saying, "You got whack jobs, we got none!" is not
gonna fly, no more than saying, "You got more whack jobs than we
do!" when you can't provide supporting evidence.

--
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::
Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield,
Other days you're the bug.

[Mary Malmros]

Jay Pique > writes:

> On 15 Jul 2003 21:42:54 -0400, Mary Malmros > wrote:
>
> >"Mike Speegle" > writes:
> >
> >> In news:Mary Malmros > typed:
> >> > "Mike Speegle" > writes:
> >>
> >> > Are you able to quantify this? Or, lacking that, can you provide a
> >> > little background? What "panel discussions" are you talking about,
> >> > what's your sample size, and what are the instances of "frothing at
> >> > the mouth and screaming and appearing non-sensical and emotional"?
> >>
> >> Watch Bill Mahre's show on HBO.
> >
> >Alas, don't get it. Anything that's more accessible to those of us
> >who don't want to pay extra money for stuff we're mostly not gonna
> >watch?
>
> I found the programming on HBO to be excellent at times, and well
> worth having. I loved the Sopranos and the Real Sex stuff - between
> that and say 2 movies a month it'd more than pay for itself.

It wasn't a comment on the programming, but on my TV-watching
habits. I've heard all kinds of raves about the Sopranos, I just
don't have the kind of time to watch where I wouldn't feel like I
was wasting my money on a subscription service. As for movies,
well, that's what Netflix is for...much more convenient.

Now...if my satellite company carried Eurosport, I'd be there in a
heartbeat. Has anyone tried to get this carried by a US provider?

--
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::
Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield,
Other days you're the bug.

[bdubya]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:42:26 -0600, "Mike Speegle"
> wrote:

>In news:Sven Golly > typed:
>> lal_truckee > wrote in news:bf2hpm$ahgrv$1@ID-
>> 90251.news.uni-berlin.de:
>>
>> > > You do battle in the
>> > > voting booth in this country, not in the streets.
>> >
>> > Both Nixon(R) and Bush(R) tried to subvert that sentiment.
>>
>> I thought it was Mayor Richard Daley (D) who did that.
>
> He did it for the first Nixon (R) election.

As I understand it, he did it _against_ Nixon (and for Kennedy), and
that battle actually was fought in the street. Okay, in the ditch,
which is where some of the ballot boxes were found. A much less
subtle tactic than purging valid voters from the rolls beforehand.

bw

[pigo]

"The Real Bev" > wrote in message
...


> > > O'Reilly can also be seen on the web, melting down under the
withering
> > > invective of...... Al Franken.
> > > (http://www.booktv.org/misc/BookExpo_053103.asp , the third
"watch"
> > > link, for the "Book and Author Luncheon" . It's kind of long,
though)
> >
> > Oh yeah.There's another one. I forgot about al franken. He's alot
like
> > o/O. No argument, just name calling.
>
> He used to be funny. Whatever happened to Davis, anyway?

"Davis" who?

[pigo]

"Sven Golly" > wrote in message
...
> "Mike Speegle" > wrote in
> :
>
> > I hope not, but we just went through the closest election we
> > ever
> > had. The difference was down in the margin of error and showed
> > many flaws in many states. I do believe that the good thing out
> > of this is that we will have much more accurate vote counting as
> > a result.
>
> Actually what the election showed is the HUGE divide between
> rural/suburban America and urban America. Rural/suburban went
> overwhelming Bush while high density urban went overwhelmingly Gore.
> Most telling is who won on a county-by-county basis.
>
> http://bushcountry.org/bushcountry-store/images/bc_poster.jpg
>
> It's used as propoganda but there's some very real demographics at
> work in it.

Thanks for posting that. It's a great snapshot.

[pigo]

"suds" <sudsysadie@hawaii{is the #1 state for Spam eaters}.rr.com> wrote
in message ...

> I'm just so d@mn happy that the American public is slowly awakening to
the
> fact that they were lied to. It's just a horrible waste that it's
costing
> us a kid a day to make you see what you should have known from the
> beginning.

I hope you're not too disappointed when you find out that the American
public is just tired of the spoiled little babies that didn't get their
way. The accusations are getting so transparent and lame that they're
not even worth responding to.

[Mary Malmros]

"pigo" > writes:

> "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Gotta point out, folks, that an individual incident may make a
> > strong impression, but it doesn't make a trend. Furthermore --
> > which was really my point in this thread -- if you want to disavow
> > those whackos who are self-proclaimed members of your favorite
> > segment of the political spectrum, or what have you, you must allow
> > others the same. Saying, "You got whack jobs, we got none!" is not
> > gonna fly, no more than saying, "You got more whack jobs than we
> > do!" when you can't provide supporting evidence.
>
> Somebody did it here. That got the ball rolling. I don't remember anyone
> saying that the right don't have any "whacko's" on our side. I think
> that they're more "straight up" whacko's though. Not the kind that
> preach peace and want to kill anyone that doesn't agree (anti-lifers
> exempted).

I can't tell whether, by "anti-lifers", you mean those who are in
favor of maintaining access to legal abortion, or you mean those who
set their gunsights on the former. I used to live around the corner
from where John Salvi went on his little spree; I used to have to
wade through crowds of red-faced, screaming, spit-spraying
anti-choice "protestors" that targeted Brookline (and, by the way,
how THAT all came about isn't something that they boast about in
conservative circles...but then, it's not a thing to boast about).
My point stands. If the right is allowed to disavow John Salvi and
his ilk, the left may do the same with "their" whack-jobs. No
exemptions allowed.

--
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Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield,
Other days you're the bug.

[Mary Malmros]

"pigo" > writes:

> "suds" <sudsysadie@hawaii{is the #1 state for Spam eaters}.rr.com> wrote
> in message ...
>
> > I'm just so d@mn happy that the American public is slowly awakening to
> the
> > fact that they were lied to. It's just a horrible waste that it's
> costing
> > us a kid a day to make you see what you should have known from the
> > beginning.
>
> I hope you're not too disappointed when you find out that the American
> public is just tired of the spoiled little babies that didn't get their
> way. The accusations are getting so transparent and lame that they're
> not even worth responding to.

But you keep doing it...every time...so once more with feeling, what
exactly makes the accusations "transparent and lame"? For that
matter, exactly what set of accusations are you talking about?
There were many, ranging from some pretty wacky conspiracy theories
to more low-key accusations of fraud to the belief that the results
were invalid and shouldn't have stood. Which of those do you call
"transparent and lame"?

--
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::
Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield,
Other days you're the bug.

[Jay Pique]

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:55 -0400, Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY!
> wrote:


>As far as Colorado goes, I'll admit I've only hit Aspen and Vail (family
>ski trips) and I was not very impressed. Sure they blow away anything we
>have in the East but they only wish they were half as fun as Utah.

Exactly. Colorado sucks and should be avoided. Utah ROCKS!!!!

JP

[scottabe]

in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.003932836ef1d76b47ac63beed374d08@1058 358595.cotse.net,
CurtisLemay at wrote on 7/16/03 5:29 AM:

> sponge bob dirty pants wrote:
>
>> Cocaine truly does rot the brain.
>
> Gawd, is this true? Didn't you abuse cocaine and alcohol? What
> sort of shape is your brain in (Well, **** face, are you bright
> enought to see the irony here?). Let me guess, Coke makes you
> smarter, right?

Clue time, stalker. I've been sober over fourteen years. You havn't. I
would not be surprised if some of your delusional thinking, obsessional
actions, and otherwise truly insane behavior was attributable to the mass
consumption of mind-altering substances.
Get help. You are insane.

[lal_truckee]

pigo wrote:
> Or that don't want me to drive an SUV because it uses too
> much gas but lives in a 10,000 sf house.

Actually, that should be: "doesn't want me to drive my SUV because it
uses too much gas, but lives in a $1,000,000 Berkeley shack."

But you guys who live in the nether regions can't imagine what
$1,000,000 buys you around here - 2 BR, 1 Ba, carport, barred windows.
And then it burns down, shortly after the latest burglery.

Those ******s have even put anti-SUV notes under my SUV wipers. What
fools - everyone knows my SUV gets good mileage - it's the SUVs bigger
than mine that are the real problem. THOSE guys shouldn't be driving
their SUV.

[bdubya]

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:09:06 -0600, "pigo"
> wrote:

>
>"suds" <sudsysadie@hawaii{is the #1 state for Spam eaters}.rr.com> wrote
>in message ...
>
>> I'm just so d@mn happy that the American public is slowly awakening to
>the
>> fact that they were lied to. It's just a horrible waste that it's
>costing
>> us a kid a day to make you see what you should have known from the
>> beginning.
>
>I hope you're not too disappointed when you find out that the American
>public is just tired of the spoiled little babies that didn't get their
>way. The accusations are getting so transparent and lame that they're
>not even worth responding to.

<chuckle> so anybody who is concerned that the Presdet misled us to
war is just a sore loser? You might recall that those that "didn't
get their way" are a larger slice of the American public than those
that did, and they've given the Presdet a much fairer shake than his
predecessor got. Unless I've missed the appointment of a special
inquisitor to investigate his prior business dealings, or the
accusation that his wife is a murderess....

bw

[lal_truckee]

Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY! wrote:

> CLIP Where can one find the best skiing in
> North America?
>
> My vote goes to JH.

We're talking lift-served, aren't we? Ok - limiting the discusion to
lift served, then:

The Hole's season is too short. Dam Elk refuge ...
Decent enough skiing when the place is open, but closing in April?
Wassup with that?

Squaw's got season, steep, and plenty of snow - but you gotta wear elbow
pads to get a shot at the steep on a pow morning, and all the cage doors
are broke so the whole zoo's loose on the grounds.

Mammoth has exposured steeps, cliffs, backcountry, a season that won't
quit, and enough jewelry wearing LA wannabies to fill a flophouse; which
reminds me - Mammoth's flophouses (Ullr and Kitzbuel) have both closed,
so the privaledge of cheapest living at Mammoth falls to the Motel 6 -
not so great; but a ski vise will still clamp to their railings for
evening tuneups and race waxing.

Alta is nice - good snow, good terrain, and fine hiking - but the lineup
to hike anywhere is like an LA freeway onramp, and the local folks'
attitude sucks.

Whistler has the scourge of r.s.a as a regular - reason enough to stay away.

That's the big 5 of North American Lift-Served Skiing - all the rest are
wannabies. And now for my vote:

Either that little un-named place accross the ridge from Squaw - same
terrain, snow, long season, with added hike-to terrain; but no Squaw people.

Or that little un-named place accross the canyon from Alta - same
terrain, snow, long season, with added hike-to terrain; but no Alta people.

One will note that neither are "Destination Resorts."

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Jay Pique > typed:

[snip]
> Now you've gone totally ad hom - and in doing so bolstered the
> argument that Mike was making.
>
> Just my $.02

Thanks, I'd gone off to read the morning papers before responding.
But in the meantime I have an example from long ago.

Back in the late '70s we had a highly imflammatory (to some) radio
talk show host, Alan Berg. He loved when shows got heated because it
was good for ratings. He always said his favorite topic was toilet
paper because there's no middle ground. You either hang it over or
under and the calls were rabid about people's preferences.

Anyway, before the Aryan Nations folks had him assassinated, he
happened to have David Duke, the Klan's Grand Gizard on the show. I
somehow managed to get in and had my few mintues on the air questioning
Mr. Duke. During the time I was talking with him, my voice pitch rose,
my adrenaline was pumping, I was trying to maintain my temper but was
slowly losing it. The whole time Duke was calm, reasoned and respectful
and appeared to be the better.

Well, when I hung up I had time to reflect on what had just
happened. I appeared to be the over-emotional, foaming at the mouth
idiot while he was the voice of reason. Now I detest everything the
Klan stands for, but I had to admit he was smooth and professional and
his act played very well. The guy was good, very good. My hands were
shaking after that call and I realized I had been played by a pro.

My point in this is the righties are very good at remaining calm
while the lefties (probably in frustration at making no headway) get
progressively more and more emotional, weakening their case. Okay,
maybe not their case, but their presentation of that case. That's the
point I'm making, the lefties don't step back and view dispassionately
how their presentation weakens their appearance and thus their cause.
They probably don't hire the image consultants the righties do and it
shows. ;-)
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[pigo]

"lal_truckee" > wrote in message
...
> pigo wrote:
> > Or that don't want me to drive an SUV because it uses too
> > much gas but lives in a 10,000 sf house.
>
> Actually, that should be: "doesn't want me to drive my SUV because it
> uses too much gas, but lives in a $1,000,000 Berkeley shack."
>
> But you guys who live in the nether regions can't imagine what
> $1,000,000 buys you around here - 2 BR, 1 Ba, carport, barred windows.
> And then it burns down, shortly after the latest burglery.
>
> Those ******s have even put anti-SUV notes under my SUV wipers. What
> fools - everyone knows my SUV gets good mileage - it's the SUVs bigger
> than mine that are the real problem. THOSE guys shouldn't be driving
> their SUV.
>

Actually, I drive a pick ups. They even have tools in them.

And in your example, I wonder what her 10,000 sf house cost. But it
wasn't the cost I was pointing out. It was the extra energy it takes to
heat and cool such a structure.

[bdubya]

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:30:12 -0600, Jay Pique >
wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:02:25 -0500, bdubya >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:09:06 -0600, "pigo"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"suds" <sudsysadie@hawaii{is the #1 state for Spam eaters}.rr.com> wrote
>>>in message ...
>>>
>>>> I'm just so d@mn happy that the American public is slowly awakening to
>>>the
>>>> fact that they were lied to. It's just a horrible waste that it's
>>>costing
>>>> us a kid a day to make you see what you should have known from the
>>>> beginning.
>>>
>>>I hope you're not too disappointed when you find out that the American
>>>public is just tired of the spoiled little babies that didn't get their
>>>way. The accusations are getting so transparent and lame that they're
>>>not even worth responding to.
>>
>><chuckle> so anybody who is concerned that the Presdet misled us to
>>war is just a sore loser? You might recall that those that "didn't
>>get their way" are a larger slice of the American public than those
>>that did, and they've given the Presdet a much fairer shake than his
>>predecessor got.
>
>It's a little easier when you don't get caught ****ing an intern and
>perjuring yourself over it.

The hounds of hell were on his tail from the day he won the election,
long before he met Ms. L. That was an incredible fvckup; they had
been coming up empty for years, and he had to go hand them a hank of
rope and enough wood for a gallows. Idiot. Plus I kind of hoped that
even though he "didn't inhale", he might have the sack to revisit the
"war on drugs" trainwreck. No luck there, either....

>> Unless I've missed the appointment of a special
>>inquisitor to investigate his prior business dealings, or the
>>accusation that his wife is a murderess....
>
>I feel pretty confident that the Dems have done a whole lot of
>skeleton searching on GW - just as the Repubs do. If you could do it
>you would.

Indeed they did, but when they didn't come up with much, they dropped
it rather than appoint a special inquisitor to make a career of it.
Which is comparatively statesmanlike, but also points to one of their
biggest problems; they just plain don't fight as mean as the GOP.

bw

[Mike Speegle]

In news:Kurt Knisely > typed:
> In article >, Mike
> Speegle says...

> > Watch Bill Mahre's show on HBO. There's no holds barred and the
> > lefties come of as raging idealogues most of the time. As I said
> > I'm
> > fairly middle of the road, but lefties need to look in the mirror
> > to see
> > how they come off publicly. It is embarassing. If you don't have
> > HBO
> > then sorry. As for my opinions, they are just that my opinions and
> > impressions on round table discussions. I can't quantify my
> > opinions
> > for you, sorry.
>
> So then Mike, as a self-proclaimed "moderate", what do you do? Do
> you feel strongly about ANYTHING other than foaming at the mouth
> liberals?

Yes, I do. Some areas I'm quite liberal in my opinions. In areas
of economy and fiscal matters, I'm somewhat conservative. With regards
to government matters I have a somewhat libertarian bent to my
viewpoints. With regard to science and technology, I say full steam
ahead. All of this, taken on average, tends to place me more in the
middle than "true" lefties or righties. I watch both versions of
ideologues and shake my head in despair as both sides point the finger
to the others claiming "*You're* the reason things are ****ed up!"

> Do you support habitat for the yellow bellied sap sucker,
> are you a member of Motorheads who want more singletrack

I am very much for the maintenance and improvement of the
environment. For now, it's our only planet. I've had a vasectomy after
siring one child. Have you done as much for the future? I detest the
enviro-whackos who claim the world is dying and the air is choking us
and the water is poison. They're stupid and over-emotional ranters who
won't let facts interfere with their viewpoints. I remember when the
air in Denver in the late 60s and early 70s was opaque and near black
during the worst inversions. Things are improving and getting better.
I believe, in this country, we having been making great progress and
will continue to improve our lot vis a vis the environment

But I am seriously angry at those assholes (US Forest Service
employees) who planted lynx hair in an area where lynx had not been to
skew the results of the study to back their agenda. Science and the
scientific process has no place for emotions and agendas, ever! In fact
they did more harm to their cause from getting caught than they ever
could have thought possible. They damaged legitimate enviros by
tainting the whole movement by dishonestly trying to fake data. :-(

> or do you
> actively participate in a Neighborhood watch?

I do and have called the police when situations warrant. I live in
an area with many apartments and therefore a Neighborhood Watch doesn't
exist. If there was one I would participate. Good enough for you?

> So you probably vote, that puts you well ahead of most sheep in
> 'merica.

Thank you. Other than school board elections (I have no children in
school and feel my vote would be uninformed and hypocritical) I have not
missed an election since 1970. Have you made them *all*?

> Do you volunteer for some organization you feel strongly
> about? Do you support some grass roots effort that you feel STRONGLY
> about in your area?

No. Are my opions any less valid?

> Do you feel strongly about anything besides skiing or has HBO numbed
> your brain?

Oookkaaaayyy. My I ask WTF this has to do with the price of tea in
China?

> Vail, Breck and the Basin probably aren't in dire need of
> political pressure to survive or progress.

Non sequitor. Look, Kurt, we may disgree on some things but we
agree that snow good, no snow bad. :-0 You've apparently taken offense
at something I've said and taken it personal. Sorry about that, but
your feelings are not my concern. Callous, maybe, but so what?
Anything else?
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[bdubya]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:20:23 GMT, "suds" <sudsysadie@hawaii{is the #1
state for Spam eaters}.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Horvath" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!
>
>Slowly but surely you Wal-Mart shoppers are finally waking up and realizing
>that you've been lied to. A lie that has cost thousands of lives and $100B
>at least.
>
>Dubya's going down. Yee Haa! Now, if we can only gather up all the morons
>who repeated his lies and insisted they were true and take them out and
>shoot them. I think it's justified. This country would be better off
>without them. Let's start with Rush, then Savage, then Coulter, then...

....sudsysadie, who is apparently no less bloodthirsty.

bw

[Jay Pique]

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:26:31 -0500, bdubya >
wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:30:12 -0600, Jay Pique >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:02:25 -0500, bdubya >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:09:06 -0600, "pigo"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"suds" <sudsysadie@hawaii{is the #1 state for Spam eaters}.rr.com> wrote
>>>>in message ...
>>>>
>>>>> I'm just so d@mn happy that the American public is slowly awakening to
>>>>the
>>>>> fact that they were lied to. It's just a horrible waste that it's
>>>>costing
>>>>> us a kid a day to make you see what you should have known from the
>>>>> beginning.
>>>>
>>>>I hope you're not too disappointed when you find out that the American
>>>>public is just tired of the spoiled little babies that didn't get their
>>>>way. The accusations are getting so transparent and lame that they're
>>>>not even worth responding to.
>>>
>>><chuckle> so anybody who is concerned that the Presdet misled us to
>>>war is just a sore loser? You might recall that those that "didn't
>>>get their way" are a larger slice of the American public than those
>>>that did, and they've given the Presdet a much fairer shake than his
>>>predecessor got.
>>
>>It's a little easier when you don't get caught ****ing an intern and
>>perjuring yourself over it.
>
>The hounds of hell were on his tail from the day he won the election,
>long before he met Ms. L. That was an incredible fvckup; they had
>been coming up empty for years, and he had to go hand them a hank of
>rope and enough wood for a gallows. Idiot. Plus I kind of hoped that
>even though he "didn't inhale", he might have the sack to revisit the
>"war on drugs" trainwreck. No luck there, either....
>
>>> Unless I've missed the appointment of a special
>>>inquisitor to investigate his prior business dealings, or the
>>>accusation that his wife is a murderess....
>>
>>I feel pretty confident that the Dems have done a whole lot of
>>skeleton searching on GW - just as the Repubs do. If you could do it
>>you would.
>
>Indeed they did, but when they didn't come up with much, they dropped
>it rather than appoint a special inquisitor to make a career of it.
>Which is comparatively statesmanlike, but also points to one of their
>biggest problems; they just plain don't fight as mean as the GOP.

Touche.

Got any Zywiecz (sp?) in your fridge?

It's sunnny and 80 here in Frisco, I'm gonna go play disc.

JP

[bdubya]

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:11:29 -0600, Jay Pique >
wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:26:31 -0500, bdubya >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:30:12 -0600, Jay Pique >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:02:25 -0500, bdubya >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:09:06 -0600, "pigo"
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"suds" <sudsysadie@hawaii{is the #1 state for Spam eaters}.rr.com> wrote
>>>>>in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just so d@mn happy that the American public is slowly awakening to
>>>>>the
>>>>>> fact that they were lied to. It's just a horrible waste that it's
>>>>>costing
>>>>>> us a kid a day to make you see what you should have known from the
>>>>>> beginning.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope you're not too disappointed when you find out that the American
>>>>>public is just tired of the spoiled little babies that didn't get their
>>>>>way. The accusations are getting so transparent and lame that they're
>>>>>not even worth responding to.
>>>>
>>>><chuckle> so anybody who is concerned that the Presdet misled us to
>>>>war is just a sore loser? You might recall that those that "didn't
>>>>get their way" are a larger slice of the American public than those
>>>>that did, and they've given the Presdet a much fairer shake than his
>>>>predecessor got.
>>>
>>>It's a little easier when you don't get caught ****ing an intern and
>>>perjuring yourself over it.
>>
>>The hounds of hell were on his tail from the day he won the election,
>>long before he met Ms. L. That was an incredible fvckup; they had
>>been coming up empty for years, and he had to go hand them a hank of
>>rope and enough wood for a gallows. Idiot. Plus I kind of hoped that
>>even though he "didn't inhale", he might have the sack to revisit the
>>"war on drugs" trainwreck. No luck there, either....
>>
>>>> Unless I've missed the appointment of a special
>>>>inquisitor to investigate his prior business dealings, or the
>>>>accusation that his wife is a murderess....
>>>
>>>I feel pretty confident that the Dems have done a whole lot of
>>>skeleton searching on GW - just as the Repubs do. If you could do it
>>>you would.
>>
>>Indeed they did, but when they didn't come up with much, they dropped
>>it rather than appoint a special inquisitor to make a career of it.
>>Which is comparatively statesmanlike, but also points to one of their
>>biggest problems; they just plain don't fight as mean as the GOP.
>
>Touche.
>
>Got any Zywiecz (sp?) in your fridge?
>
>It's sunnny and 80 here in Frisco, I'm gonna go play disc.
>

The Zywiec is in a cooler in the basement, as the fridge is full of
leftover food from the first party on the new patio (I'll never have
to water or mow the backyard again, because it's all bricks now!)

Disc....izzat ultimate or golf? The Copper course is supposed to be a
beauty...
www.summitdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030710/SPORTS/307100202
....but apparently Beaver Run is messing up the Peak 9 plan...
www.summitdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030517/NEWS/305170101
...which is a shame, because I can think of no finer use for a ski hill
in the off-season.

bw
How it's spelled don't matter; it's how it TASTES!

[lal_truckee]

Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY! wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Kurt Knisely wrote:
>
>>Before we go too far, what is your definition of "the best skiing"?
>
CLIP
>
> Here's the criteria in approximate order:
CLIP

> 3. Accessability. I don't want to hike to the good stuff.

Oops. We have a disconnect.

And besides, lots of Jackson's good stuff has a little intro stroll,
even the in-bounds stuff ...

[lal_truckee]

bdubya wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:20:23 GMT, "suds" <sudsysadie@hawaii{is the #1
> state for Spam eaters}.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Horvath" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>>>Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!
>>
>>Slowly but surely you Wal-Mart shoppers are finally waking up and realizing
>>that you've been lied to. A lie that has cost thousands of lives and $100B
>>at least.
>>
>>Dubya's going down. Yee Haa! Now, if we can only gather up all the morons
>>who repeated his lies and insisted they were true and take them out and
>>shoot them. I think it's justified. This country would be better off
>>without them. Let's start with Rush, then Savage, then Coulter, then...
>
>
> ...sudsysadie, who is apparently no less bloodthirsty.

Ah, he just hasn't thought the thing through. No need to take such
drastic measures: once the Shrub and his minions are rounded up, they
can just be put in the concentration camps. Might as well make use of
all that infra-structure Ashcroft is building ...

[Mike Speegle]

In news:The Real Bev > typed:
> Mike Speegle wrote:

> > Thank you. Other than school board elections (I have no
> > children in school and feel my vote would be uninformed and
> > hypocritical)
>
> NONONONONO. You need to rethink this. Even if you have no children
> at all you have a stake in the education of the next generations.
> Remember, they will be the doctors who will be treating you when the
> doctors your own age have retired. And burger-flippers.

Yeahbut, if I don't know the candidates at all I feel my vote is
wrong. And since I don't own but rent, I do not have a vested stake in
the proper management of property tax management by the school boards.
And, in this area parents of students are *highly* involved with the
school boards and such, so I have no pangs of guilt for skipping those
elections. :-/
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[jvwalker51]

On 7/16/03 2:22 PM, in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.0569f406c928b725e8f87324a4e51976@1058 379778.cotse.net,
"CurtisLemay" > wrote:

> sponge bob dirty pants wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Clue time, **** Face. Once you rot your brain on drugs/alcohol, it
> doesn't return to normal. It does irreversible damage. Same thing
> for your frickin' liver. Do you have a liver donor lined up?
>
> What a ****ing dumbass!
>
>
If I recall correctly, Scott made a big point of stating that he was
suffering from a case of Type II Diabetes Mellitus. If this is true, the
disease results from some sort of bodily abuse - obesity is the most common
problem but alcohol/substance abuse is a key contributor as well. This
version of diabetes is generally controlled by diet. The upshot of all of
this is that our little buddy has definitely inflicted some permanent damage
upon himself.

[Mary Malmros]

lal_truckee > writes:

> pigo wrote:
> > Or that don't want me to drive an SUV because it uses too
> > much gas but lives in a 10,000 sf house.
>
> Actually, that should be: "doesn't want me to drive my SUV because it
> uses too much gas, but lives in a $1,000,000 Berkeley shack."

Mike Barnicle, a former columnist for the Boston Globe, used to
write these pathetically one-note right-wing rants in which he
wrapped himself in a blue collar and tore into them damn liberal
elitists who just make it tough for the working man. Two things
made this the most ironic situation in modern journalism: one, that
he wrote these deathless pieces of prose from the comfort of a
luxury home in Lincoln, and two, that after years of writing
variants of the same three columns, it turned out that he wasn't
even writing those, and he got sacked for plagiarism.

--
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Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield,
Other days you're the bug.

[Java Man (Espressopithecus)]

In article >,
says...
> This is a non-sequitor. The debate was whether or not liberals are
> more rabid on talk shows than conservatives.
>
And the answer is . . . . (drumroll) . . . . . .

If you're a liberal, the conservatives are more rabid, and vice versa.
Both sides have their share of idealogues.

Personally, I liked Jon Stewart's comment in his interview last week on
Bill Moyers "Now" or whatever it's called. Stewart said that the
political debate has been highjacked by the 5% of idealogues on both
sides. I agree.

Rick

[Mary Malmros]

Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY! > writes:

> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Kurt Knisely wrote:
> > Before we go too far, what is your definition of "the best skiing"?
>
> That's tough so I'll come up with a loosely based metric. First off, I'm
> throwing out all non ski-related items. So screw nightlife and the rest of
> that junk. We're talking about skiing here.

Yay! Yay! Yay yay yay! Finally, a "best" that doesn't include any
of that extraneous CRAP!!!

> Here's the criteria in approximate order:
>
> 1. Best snow. Without good snow a mountain is nothing (I've heard too many
> stories about what Crested Butte could be if only they got some decent
> coverage). Best snow is simple: lot's of it, regularly, low water content.
> Weather is also important here since rain on the mountain or freezing
> temperatures adversely affect the snow quality and the experience.
> Snowboarders and the quantity of skiers who visit also contribute
> negatively.

Agreed.

> 2. Best terrain. Less than 2000' of continuous of vertical and less than
> 1000 acres makes a mountain dull. A mountain needs a variety of terrain at
> all levels of real skiing ability (from beginner to elite). I'm talking
> about groomed, moguls, trees, chutes, kickers, drops, and more that I
> can't think of right now.

Well...I guess that further splits down the "best" into "best for
who". If you're going with a gang of people of varying abilities, I
agree. Or, if you want to have your "best" mean "best for the
widest range of people", likewise.

> 3. Accessability. I don't want to hike to the good stuff. Also, the faster
> the lifts go the more skiing I can get in. And there must be a quick way
> to the summit. Comfort on the lifts doesn't hurt either (like foot rests
> and some protection from wind in really exposed areas, e.g., Jay Peak's
> Green Mountain Freezer). These things are not that important though since
> suffering is inseparable from great skiing. Backcountry is a plus but not
> necessary for me as I lack the requisite skills to venture out safely.

Mostly agreed, although I don't mind it being a little hassle
getting to the good stuff -- like, you gotta ride this chair and go
down this trail and then ride THIS chair and cut over on THIS
catwalk etc. You get fewer people that way.

> 4. Price. Heli is expensive. One trip costs as much as my entire winter
> ski budget. So let's keep the price reasonable. Cat skiing can be
> affordable so I won't throw it out. Similarly, Silverton looks like a
> great deal for what you're getting.

Agreed. I like low-amenities ski areas, because I don't like the
feeling that I'm paying for non-functional glitz or services I am
not going to use.

> I hope I didn't forget anything here but people can add any missing
> criteria. My vote still goes to JH. Best skiing in North America.

Transportation is important. I don't mind it being some work to get
to the area, but I don't like a huge amount of hassle getting from
my car (or my lodgings) to the slopes. Places like Stratton are a
nightmare for this reason.

--
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Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield,
Other days you're the bug.

[Mike Speegle]

In news:bdubya > typed:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:16:53 -0600, Jay Pique >
> wrote:

> > Next topic: who's more respectable - Rush or Carville
>
> That's a trick topic; the answer is "neither". How 'bout:
>
> "Maureen Dowd v. Ann Coulter -
> who looks better in stretch ski pants?"

Now *there's* a topic worth the trouble! ;-)
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often, Ski hard,
Spend *lots* of money, Then leave as quickly as you can.

[Jay Pique]

On 16 Jul 2003 16:22:15 -0400, Mary Malmros > wrote:

>Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY! > writes:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Kurt Knisely wrote:
>> > Before we go too far, what is your definition of "the best skiing"?
>>
>> That's tough so I'll come up with a loosely based metric. First off, I'm
>> throwing out all non ski-related items. So screw nightlife and the rest of
>> that junk. We're talking about skiing here.
>
>Yay! Yay! Yay yay yay! Finally, a "best" that doesn't include any
>of that extraneous CRAP!!!

It only takes one good woman to make the nightlife acceptable
literally anywhere.

JP
****************************
It's not your girlfriend, it's just your turn.

[pigo]

"Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
...

> But you're still not answering my question. Many of the objections
> to the election result -- in fact, all the ones that I heard -- had
> _nothing_ to do with the structure of the electoral college. I
> heard allegations that the election results were fraudulent, and I
> heard allegations that the result was invalid as a result of error.
> Neither of those has to do with the electoral college.

Those allegations all were discarded. GWB was certified to have won the
state. That's what it is. DONE

[pigo]

"Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY!" > wrote in message
...
snipped
> Hey, but
> experience is subjective so maybe you're more sensitive here than me.

True. It was 80's early 90's when I was making regular trips. I can't
really help it if my experience then makes what I see now, not worth
going.

[Dave Stallard]

pigo wrote:
>
> "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > But you're still not answering my question. Many of the objections
> > to the election result -- in fact, all the ones that I heard -- had
> > _nothing_ to do with the structure of the electoral college. I
> > heard allegations that the election results were fraudulent, and I
> > heard allegations that the result was invalid as a result of error.
> > Neither of those has to do with the electoral college.
>
> Those allegations all were discarded. GWB was certified to have won the
> state. That's what it is. DONE

I think more voters in Florida *intended* to vote for Gore than intended
to vote for Bush. Unfortunately, confusing ballets (the infamous
"butterfly"), screwed-up machines (they have been banned in MA), and
their own unfamilarity with voting procedures (many were first-time
voters) got in their way, and so a small margin for Gore got converted
into an even smaller margin for Bush. All very sad, and an utter
disgrace all around.

And all very irrelevant. You're right, it is done. GWB has a lot more
to worry about now then the election of 2000. I've got a sickening
feeling that the wheels are going to start coming off very soon.

Dave

[Paul Christofanelli]

Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY! > wrote:
: So let me troll for some ski posts. Where can one find the best skiing in
: North America?

: My vote goes to JH.

..... the rest deleted, troll accepted.

JH is truly great, but...the best can vary. When we do a road trip from
Fort Collins, we generally pick from Salt Lake, Jackson, and Taos,
trying to make a judgement on where the snow's going to fall. Since CA
is too far away, it doesn't enter into the equation. In my opinion, JH
has the best mountain, but not always the best snow. But then again, I
do enjoy the famous Jackson crud on the lower faces. Taos has suffered
in prior years due to a decided lack of snow (but this past Feb and
later was pretty awesome). JH is usually the default; something good
has to be going on in SLC to pull us away. The lift-served OB at JH is
just incredible, plus it's relatively easy to hike to.

However, one year, we made a big mistake - puttering around 2 days in
breakable crust in the bright sunshine at JH, waiting for snow, then
finally going to Alta to find amazing snow 3 days *after* the storm - 2
days of crusty skiing "wasted". The storm had swung south of the
Tetons.

Clearly, if you have to have a fixed destination and you want the
highest probability of good snow on a challenging mtn, then LCC
or Solitude is your best bet. I kinda prefer Alta to Snowbird
because of the crowd factor.

Whistler/BC is even more expansive than JH, but frankly, the snow
is just as likely to suck as to be good. I've had fun skiin'/good
snow in Tahoe: Kirkwood, Squaw, Alpine Meadows, but not much
experience there, really. Taos is truly a cool mountain when
there's snow, reminds me of Alta, but with even more
steepness possibilities and great hike-to stashes, but likely
not as good snow. Better green chile.

-Paul

[The Real Bev]

Bob Lee wrote:

> It's interesting to think that there may be backcountry that doesn't
> involve hiking. I don't get out that much, can anyone tell me where
> there is non-hiking backcountry?

We could, but then we'd have to kill you.

--
Cheers, Bev
================================================== ================
"Don't sweat it -- it's not real life. It's only ones and zeroes."
-- spaf (1988?)

[Mary Malmros]

"pigo" > writes:

> "Mary Malmros" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > But you're still not answering my question. Many of the objections
> > to the election result -- in fact, all the ones that I heard -- had
> > _nothing_ to do with the structure of the electoral college. I
> > heard allegations that the election results were fraudulent, and I
> > heard allegations that the result was invalid as a result of error.
> > Neither of those has to do with the electoral college.
>
> Those allegations all were discarded. GWB was certified to have won the
> state. That's what it is. DONE

pigo, I'm really not being deliberately obtuse...but how were the
allegations of error "discarded"?

--
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::
Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield,
Other days you're the bug.

[lal_truckee]

Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY! wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>
>>Bob Lee wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It's interesting to think that there may be backcountry that doesn't
>>>involve hiking. I don't get out that much, can anyone tell me where
>>>there is non-hiking backcountry?
>>
>>We could, but then we'd have to kill you.
>
>
> JH has lift served backcountry through the access gates. Now can we kill
> him? Damn pinnas, we need some way to keep them out of the alpine group.
> Do they even consider what they do "hiking"? There are skis on their feet,
> a pipe in their mouth, and flies buzzing around the whole affair.
> Pullleeease.

Hey - I resent that - you might discourage them! Pinna's are sweet
people - all year long they slog uphill at altitude, just so three or
four days a year when company arrives and they want to show off their
hill, they have the strength and conditioning to carry the case of beer
to the top.

What more can you ask?

[jvwalker51]

On 7/17/03 12:33 AM, in article
, "Bob Lee" >
wrote:

> Spammer's Email - DO NOT REPLY! wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> Bob Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's interesting to think that there may be backcountry that doesn't
>>>> involve hiking. I don't get out that much, can anyone tell me where
>>>> there is non-hiking backcountry?
>>>
>>> We could, but then we'd have to kill you.
>>
>> JH has lift served backcountry through the access gates. Now can we kill
>> him? Damn pinnas, we need some way to keep them out of the alpine group.
>> Do they even consider what they do "hiking"? There are skis on their feet,
>> a pipe in their mouth, and flies buzzing around the whole affair.
>> Pullleeease.
>
> Hey, hey, hey now! 'Scuse me-e-e-e, I was just...y'know, askin'. And a
> little credit due - I did stay out of the ramen portion of this thread.
> But I suppose this isn't the time to ask a sanctimonious question about
> what defines backcountry, is it? No sticky debates on whether you can
> get to backcountry and back from a lift without hiking, then? Okay...
>
> Bob

Snowmobiles?

[Ted Waldron]

Kurt Knisely escribío:


> In article >, lal_truckee says...
>
>>What more can you ask?
>
>
> A telebabe w/ nippleless bra, crotchless undies and fishnet stockings carrying a
> large pack who can dig a snowcave that won't drip.
>
> -K

Try lurking around the Strip Clubs in the Yukon, or when the "Inuit
Intimate Revue" is touring around in your area. I am sure your fantasy
would bound to show up one of these days.

Ted
I think Voilé makes all those products that you mentioned.

[pigo]

"Kurt Knisely" > wrote in message
...

> Most of the grrls I go out with smell like Deet and sunblock.

Is that the combo it takes to cover that "fish left on the bank" smell?

[lal_truckee]

klaus wrote:
> Kurt Knisely > wrote:
>
>>>What more can you ask?
>
>
>>A telebabe w/ nippleless bra, crotchless undies and fishnet stockings carrying a
>>large pack who can dig a snowcave that won't drip.
>
>
> Yah right... And a president that doesnt lie.

Hmmmm, that's a tough one. Maybe Wilson? I'll go with Woodrow as the
last President who qualified on that attribute. Do I win a prize?

[uglymoney]

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:18:28 -0600, "Mike Speegle"
> wrote:

>My point in this is the righties are very good at remaining calm
>while the lefties (probably in frustration at making no headway) get
>progressively more and more emotional, weakening their case. Okay,
>maybe not their case, but their presentation of that case. That's the
>point I'm making, the lefties don't step back and view dispassionately
>how their presentation weakens their appearance and thus their cause.
>They probably don't hire the image consultants the righties do and it
>shows. ;-)
>--


I refuse to try to judge presentations. I think each party
is talking to a vastly different audience.

Having a grandmother who watches FOX news 12 hours out of
the day, I believe that rightists are preaching to the
converted, the unthinking, the choir, the sheep so to say.
When in her presence I've watched my grandmother change the
channel every single time any information comes on the
screen suggesting Republicans are anything but perfect. I
don't believe she is alone. Its why boring guys like
Limbaugh are able to exist.

Its easy to preach to sheep. They just keep grazing.

The leftists are trying to preach to a whole different
crowd. You have the centrist like myself, who simply don't
like much of their message, question most everything they
say, etc, but still send votes their way when a better
choice doesn't exist. You have the poor, who vote for
democrats, but are ****ed cause the government pays them not
enough, makes them work, etc (the dependent whiners). On
and on.

You can't preach to the unconverted, and the democrats don't
have a giant tool of conversion in the form of the radical
right wing church groups that form the core of the
Republican message, and brainwashed audience.

So its harder for democrats imo.

The people with the strongest message come from the center.
They have the truth behind them, not religion, or handouts.

nate

[pigo]

"uglymoney" > wrote in message
...

> You can't preach to the unconverted, and the democrats don't
> have a giant tool of conversion in the form of the radical
> right wing church groups that form the core of the
> Republican message, and brainwashed audience.
>
> So its harder for democrats imo.
>
> The people with the strongest message come from the center.
> They have the truth behind them, not religion, or handouts.

It's even harder for me in that I believe in the results that the
Republicans are after AND I believe that "churches" are probably the
single biggest ripoff and are responsible for WAY more misery than
anything else in the history of man.

I think that the Republicans have more of "the truth" going for them,
they just cloud it up with that religion bull****.

[Java Man (Espressopithecus)]

In article >,
says...
>
> You can't preach to the unconverted, and the democrats don't
> have a giant tool of conversion in the form of the radical
> right wing church groups that form the core of the
> Republican message, and brainwashed audience.

Have you forgotten Hollywood?

(No, Horvath, I wasn't calling you.)

Rick

[jvwalker51]

On 7/17/03 8:16 PM, in article , "Terd
Fartingmor" > wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:22:58 -0600 (MDT), "CurtisLemay"
> > wrote this crap:
>
>> sponge bob dirty pants wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Clue time, **** Face. Once you rot your brain on drugs/alcohol, it
>> doesn't return to normal. It does irreversible damage. Same thing
>> for your frickin' liver. Do you have a liver donor lined up?
>
> Incorrect. The liver eventually returns to normal.
>
>
>
>
>
> This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe
Incorrect,

Can you say Cirrhosis of the liver? It's a degenerative condition that
results from poisoning your liver with too much alcohol and drugs. Ask David
Crosby. You need to take a Human Anatomy course.

[Vern93]

In article >,
Terd > wrote:
>
> So where does it say that your liver will never recover?

Paragraph 5: "Liver damage from cirrhosis cannot be reversed, but
treatment can stop or delay further progression and reduce
complications. "

>
> And what is "some random web site"? Something you just made up,
> dumbass?

I did some very extensive research on the matter. I put the word
"cirrhosis" in Google and clicked the very first link the came up. You
may wish to print these instructions out and save them should need any
information from the internet in the future. Regardless, this is the
link that came up:

http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/cirrhosis/index.htm#treatme
nt

This is a potentially "shady" source calling itself (rather grandiously)
"The National Institutes of Health" HTH.

Dave

[jvwalker51]

On 7/18/03 7:30 AM, in article
, "Vern93"
> wrote:

> In article >,
> Terd > wrote:
>>
>> So where does it say that your liver will never recover?
>
> Paragraph 5: "Liver damage from cirrhosis cannot be reversed, but
> treatment can stop or delay further progression and reduce
> complications. "
>
>>
>> And what is "some random web site"? Something you just made up,
>> dumbass?
>
> I did some very extensive research on the matter. I put the word
> "cirrhosis" in Google and clicked the very first link the came up. You
> may wish to print these instructions out and save them should need any
> information from the internet in the future. Regardless, this is the
> link that came up:
>
> http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/cirrhosis/index.htm#treatme
> nt
>
> This is a potentially "shady" source calling itself (rather grandiously)
> "The National Institutes of Health" HTH.
>
> Dave
I was going to point out that there may a maintenance type of drug (some
version(probably) of alcohol hydrogenase that metabolizes alcohol). I have
a similar situation with gout - I have it but taking an enzyme like
allopurinol prevents symptoms from arising. However, cirrhosis of the liver
is a NON-reversible disease.

[Dave Stallard]

jvwalker51 wrote:

> Can you say Cirrhosis of the liver? It's a degenerative condition that
> results from poisoning your liver with too much alcohol and drugs. Ask David
> Crosby. You need to take a Human Anatomy course.

But Mr. Crosby got a new liver. Gee, I wonder if it had anything to do
with him being famous? If I were in charge of handing out livers for
transplant, which are scarce, I'd disqualify anyone who had trashed his
own through self-abuse. Who's to say he won't trash the new one too?

Dave

[scottabe]

in article , klaus at
wrote on 7/17/03 10:11 AM:

> Kurt Knisely > wrote:
>>>
>>> What more can you ask?
>
>> A telebabe w/ nippleless bra, crotchless undies and fishnet stockings
>> carrying a
>> large pack who can dig a snowcave that won't drip.
>
> Yah right... And a president that doesnt lie.

Yeah, right. And Klaus Biggers isn't an amoral asshole who invites
criminals to his barbeques and supports internet terrorism.

[Walt]

bdubya wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:40:42 -0600, Jay Pique wrote
>>On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:39:57 -0500, bdubya wrote:
>>>On 15 Jul 2003 01:51:35 GMT, Terd Fartingmor wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:26:45 -0500, bdubya wrote this crap:
>>>>
>>>>>Sitting out the Mac again, huh?
>>>>
>>>>I've never done the Mac.
>>>
>>>Wuss.
>>
>>Explain please. Bedankt.
>
>
> http://www.chicagoyachtclub.com/racetomackinac/index.html
> http://www.chicagomackinac.com/2003/
>
> Bitte.

Oh. And I thought you were talking about the Mac. Turns out
you were talking about something else.

Anyway, here's some info on the Real Mac (which is finishing
up as I write this...):

http://www.porthuronmackinac.com/2003/

-Walt

[bdubya]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:01:56 -0700, The Real Bev
> wrote:

>pigo wrote:
>>
>> "The Real Bev" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > > Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.
>> >
>> > So is California. I am reminded of two things: Gene Wilder yelling
>> "I am
>> > very UNIQUE!" in a crowd of men who look exactly like him, and my Gary
>> > Larson cup showing a lot of penguins, one of whom is singing "I gotta
>> be
>> > MEEEEEEEE!"
>> >
>> > The counter-culture is conservative now. Feel conflicted?
>>
>> I *know* CA is. Did you sign a real Davis re-call petition or one of
>> those that they were putting out to divert signatures?
>
>I'm pretty sure it was real -- but I can't remember why.

It just occurred to me - for a small fee and a few signatures, why
don't we enter Bev or Lal as the Ski Party candidate for CA governor?
The politics are simple; the platform has exactly two planks.
We need catchy slogans, though, like:
"Lal_Truckee: a moderator, not a moderate!"

Bored at work,
bw

[Walt]

bdubya wrote:

> It just occurred to me - for a small fee and a few signatures, why
> don't we enter Bev or Lal as the Ski Party candidate for CA governor?
> The politics are simple; the platform has exactly two planks.
> We need catchy slogans, though, like:
> "Lal_Truckee: a moderator, not a moderate!"

But could either of them possibly stand a chance against Gary Coleman?
<http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/6469151.htm>


Or the Producer of "Bat Boy - The Musical" ?
<http://www.flemmingforgovernor.org/>
who, incidentally, has what must be the most compelling campaign slogan
ever: "If elected, I will resign."

Or everyone's favorite handicapped pornographer?
<http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/08/05/MN259959.DTL>


In other news, if (ob)skiing with the Mormons in Utah isn't surreal
enough for you, you'll soon be able to ski with the Moonies in North
Korea:
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/192691.stm>

>
> Bored at work,
> bw

What, you don't have a connection to the internet?


--
// -Walt
//
// <http://www.go2net.com/useless/>

[Richard Henry]

"bdubya" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:01:56 -0700, The Real Bev
> > wrote:
>
> >pigo wrote:
> >>
> >> "The Real Bev" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > > Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.
> >> >
> >> > So is California. I am reminded of two things: Gene Wilder yelling
> >> "I am
> >> > very UNIQUE!" in a crowd of men who look exactly like him, and my
Gary
> >> > Larson cup showing a lot of penguins, one of whom is singing "I gotta
> >> be
> >> > MEEEEEEEE!"
> >> >
> >> > The counter-culture is conservative now. Feel conflicted?
> >>
> >> I *know* CA is. Did you sign a real Davis re-call petition or one of
> >> those that they were putting out to divert signatures?
> >
> >I'm pretty sure it was real -- but I can't remember why.
>
> It just occurred to me - for a small fee and a few signatures, why
> don't we enter Bev or Lal as the Ski Party candidate for CA governor?
> The politics are simple; the platform has exactly two planks.
> We need catchy slogans, though, like:
> "Lal_Truckee: a moderator, not a moderate!"

I'm offended -OFFENDED, DID YOU HEAR ME- that you didn't mention me as a
possible candidate.

I promise to work 20-hour weeks, for half the governor's salary.

And to conduct thorough safety inspections of every ski lift and trail in
the state.

[bdubya]

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:53:39 -0700, "Richard Henry" >
wrote:

>
>"bdubya" > wrote in message
...
>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:01:56 -0700, The Real Bev
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >pigo wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "The Real Bev" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> > > Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.
>> >> >
>> >> > So is California. I am reminded of two things: Gene Wilder yelling
>> >> "I am
>> >> > very UNIQUE!" in a crowd of men who look exactly like him, and my
>Gary
>> >> > Larson cup showing a lot of penguins, one of whom is singing "I gotta
>> >> be
>> >> > MEEEEEEEE!"
>> >> >
>> >> > The counter-culture is conservative now. Feel conflicted?
>> >>
>> >> I *know* CA is. Did you sign a real Davis re-call petition or one of
>> >> those that they were putting out to divert signatures?
>> >
>> >I'm pretty sure it was real -- but I can't remember why.
>>
>> It just occurred to me - for a small fee and a few signatures, why
>> don't we enter Bev or Lal as the Ski Party candidate for CA governor?
>> The politics are simple; the platform has exactly two planks.
>> We need catchy slogans, though, like:
>> "Lal_Truckee: a moderator, not a moderate!"
>
>I'm offended -OFFENDED, DID YOU HEAR ME- that you didn't mention me as a
>possible candidate.
>
>I promise to work 20-hour weeks, for half the governor's salary.
>
>And to conduct thorough safety inspections of every ski lift and trail in
>the state.

I'm sorry about that; I was truly unaware that you were Californine,
or Californais, or whatever it is. But your slogan needs serious
punching-up. Like maybe "Richard Henry: Gravity is on his side!"

bw

[scottabe]

in article , bdubya at
wrote on 8/6/03 9:50 AM:

> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:01:56 -0700, The Real Bev
> > wrote:
>
>> pigo wrote:
>>>
>>> "The Real Bev" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>> Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.
>>>>
>>>> So is California. I am reminded of two things: Gene Wilder yelling
>>> "I am
>>>> very UNIQUE!" in a crowd of men who look exactly like him, and my Gary
>>>> Larson cup showing a lot of penguins, one of whom is singing "I gotta
>>> be
>>>> MEEEEEEEE!"
>>>>
>>>> The counter-culture is conservative now. Feel conflicted?
>>>
>>> I *know* CA is. Did you sign a real Davis re-call petition or one of
>>> those that they were putting out to divert signatures?
>>
>> I'm pretty sure it was real -- but I can't remember why.
>
> It just occurred to me - for a small fee and a few signatures, why
> don't we enter Bev or Lal as the Ski Party candidate for CA governor?
> The politics are simple; the platform has exactly two planks.
> We need catchy slogans, though, like:
> "Lal_Truckee: a moderator, not a moderate!"
>
> Bored at work,
> bw
Yeah, why not? They are both pathological liars, without a shred of ethics
or morals, utterly devoid of any decency, honesty, or spirituality.
Perfectly qualified to be politicians.

LAL Truckee and Bev Ashley: Psychopaths for Governor!

[The Real Bev]

bdubya wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:01:56 -0700, The Real Bev
> > wrote:
>
> >pigo wrote:
> >>
> >> "The Real Bev" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > > Aren't you in CO? That's a demo. state I thought.
> >> >
> >> > So is California. I am reminded of two things: Gene Wilder yelling
> >> "I am
> >> > very UNIQUE!" in a crowd of men who look exactly like him, and my Gary
> >> > Larson cup showing a lot of penguins, one of whom is singing "I gotta
> >> be
> >> > MEEEEEEEE!"
> >> >
> >> > The counter-culture is conservative now. Feel conflicted?
> >>
> >> I *know* CA is. Did you sign a real Davis re-call petition or one of
> >> those that they were putting out to divert signatures?
> >
> >I'm pretty sure it was real -- but I can't remember why.
>
> It just occurred to me - for a small fee and a few signatures, why
> don't we enter Bev or Lal as the Ski Party candidate for CA governor?
> The politics are simple; the platform has exactly two planks.
> We need catchy slogans, though, like:
> "Lal_Truckee: a moderator, not a moderate!"

I think we should enter The Tominator for Lt. Gov. The slogan would be
perfect.

--
Cheers,
Bev
================================================== ===========
"What's truly sad is that your vote counts the same as mine."
-- S. Brown

[Richard Henry]

"The Real Bev" > wrote in message
...
> Alan Baker wrote:
>
> > All the raving you do won't change the fact that nobody was mentioning
> > you while you were gone.
>
> And nobody would be mentioning him now if you could find it in your heart
> to stop.

Come on, Bev. I was wondering how long this would go on. Kind of like
watching a tennis game with 2 balls in play.

[scottabe]

in article , The Real Bev at
wrote on 8/7/03 12:56 PM:

> Alan Baker wrote:
>
>> All the raving you do won't change the fact that nobody was mentioning
>> you while you were gone.
>
> And nobody would be mentioning him now if you could find it in your heart
> to stop.

Nice enough that this psychpathic liar finally found it in her heart to stop
lying about me. Problem is she has never retracted her lies, never admitted
to smearing me and defaming me, never confessed to her participation in an
ongoing campaign of criminal terrorism.
Bev Ashley doesn't want people talking about what she and her sick friends
did on this newsgroup-because it makes Bev Ashley look like a truly vile
****.
Hey, Bev?
Wanna tell me again how Bert implanted false memories of being abused as a
child in me? Please? I've been waiting for an explanation of that
incredibly despicable lie for many years now.

[scottabe]

in article 9aFYa.9539$Ye.3054@fed1read02, Richard Henry at
wrote on 8/7/03 8:54 PM:

>
> "The Real Bev" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>
>>> All the raving you do won't change the fact that nobody was mentioning
>>> you while you were gone.
>>
>> And nobody would be mentioning him now if you could find it in your heart
>> to stop.
>
> Come on, Bev. I was wondering how long this would go on. Kind of like
> watching a tennis game with 2 balls in play.
>
>
>
Wrong. You lie. I tell the truth. You play games. I'm honest.
The sick fun of Richard Henry, who thinks lying and defaming is a spectator
sport he can enjoy.

[The Real Bev]

Richard Henry wrote:
>
> "The Real Bev" > wrote:
>
> > Alan Baker wrote:
> >
> > > All the raving you do won't change the fact that nobody was mentioning
> > > you while you were gone.
> >
> > And nobody would be mentioning him now if you could find it in your heart
> > to stop.
>
> Come on, Bev. I was wondering how long this would go on. Kind of like
> watching a tennis game with 2 balls in play.

NO balls in play.

--
Cheers,
Bev
--------------------------------------------------------
"I don't think they could put him in a mental hospital.
On the other hand, if he were already in, I don't think
they'd let him out." -- Greek Geek

[Richard Henry]

"scottabe" > wrote in message
...
> You lie.

What lie?

[Richard Henry]

"Olaf Timandahaff" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:23:47 -0700, scottabe >
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >
> >Alan Baker: pathological liar, without a shred of ethis or morals,
utterly
> >devoid of any decency, honesty, or spirituality. Perfectly qualified to
be
> >a politician.
> >
> >Alan Baker: Psychopaths for Prime Minister!
>
> Hey Scott, you may have struck on a good idea, we've had a simpleton
> with no ethics, morals or decency for the last decade, a guy that
> would tell a lie when the truth would do just as well.
> Hell, I'll vote for Baker, just from what I've read on Usenet.
> As long as Alan is a fiscal conservative psychopath, he can be of the
> "Whirling Dervish" faith for all I care. [long as I don't have to join
> in]
>
> ALAN BAKER FOR 22 SUSSEX
> WE WANT A PSYCHOPATH THAT CAN SPEAK AT LEAST ONE OF THE OFFICIAL
> LANGUAGWAGS! <-------That's that idiot Chretien's word, btw.
>
> Scott, you should become one of those backroom guys like Carville, I
> see real potential in you.

I have always seen him as sort of a northwest Newt Gingrich.

[Alan Baker]

In article >,
Olaf Timandahaff > wrote:

> On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:23:47 -0700, scottabe >
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >
> >Alan Baker: pathological liar, without a shred of ethis or morals, utterly
> >devoid of any decency, honesty, or spirituality. Perfectly qualified to be
> >a politician.
> >
> >Alan Baker: Psychopaths for Prime Minister!
>
> Hey Scott, you may have struck on a good idea, we've had a simpleton
> with no ethics, morals or decency for the last decade, a guy that
> would tell a lie when the truth would do just as well.
> Hell, I'll vote for Baker, just from what I've read on Usenet.
> As long as Alan is a fiscal conservative psychopath, he can be of the
> "Whirling Dervish" faith for all I care. [long as I don't have to join
> in]
>
> ALAN BAKER FOR 22 SUSSEX
> WE WANT A PSYCHOPATH THAT CAN SPEAK AT LEAST ONE OF THE OFFICIAL
> LANGUAGWAGS! <-------That's that idiot Chretien's word, btw.
>
> Scott, you should become one of those backroom guys like Carville, I
> see real potential in you.
>
>
> OT

If nominated I will not run, but if elected I will serve. <g>

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

[A. B. Normal]

scottabe > wrote in
:

> Nice enough that this psychpathic liar finally found it in her heart
> to stop lying about me. Problem is she has never retracted her lies,
> never admitted to smearing me and defaming me, never confessed to her
> participation in an ongoing campaign of criminal terrorism.

Neiter have you fat boy, so shut your face

[Richard Henry]

"The Real Bev" > wrote in message
...
> Richard Henry wrote:
>
> > > Scott, you should become one of those backroom guys like Carville, I
> > > see real potential in you.
> >
> > I have always seen him as sort of a northwest Newt Gingrich.
>
> Carville or he-who-shall-not-be-named? Or someone completely different?
> I think Gingrich, unlike HWSNBN, got a raw deal.

He reaped what he sowed.

[scottabe]

in article , The Real Bev at
wrote on 8/7/03 10:13 PM:

> Richard Henry wrote:
>>
>> "The Real Bev" > wrote:
>>
>>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>>
>>>> All the raving you do won't change the fact that nobody was mentioning
>>>> you while you were gone.
>>>
>>> And nobody would be mentioning him now if you could find it in your heart
>>> to stop.
>>
>> Come on, Bev. I was wondering how long this would go on. Kind of like
>> watching a tennis game with 2 balls in play.
>
> NO balls in play.

Your friend Henry certainly has no balls, Ashley. None of your fellow
terrorists do, nor do you. Remember when Bev Ashley stated that I deserved
to be physically assaulted for telling the truth?
Doing that would take balls. Cowards like Bev Ashley and her buddies would
rather spew their filth from the safety of their computers.

[scottabe]

in article , A. B. Normal at
wrote on 8/8/03 1:12 PM:

> scottabe > wrote in
> :
>
>> Nice enough that this psychpathic liar finally found it in her heart
>> to stop lying about me. Problem is she has never retracted her lies,
>> never admitted to smearing me and defaming me, never confessed to her
>> participation in an ongoing campaign of criminal terrorism.
>
> Neiter have you fat boy, so shut your face

I confess. I have done nothing but tell the truth about the vile criminals
and terrorists of rsa.
Hey, asshole?
Wanna try and shut my face for me?
Typical coward.

[scottabe]

in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.8fe6bf8ad3bad6db7c8b44455e6ba16b@1060 397911.cotse.net,
CurtisLemay at wrote on 8/8/03 7:58 PM:

> sponge bob dirty pants wrote:
>
>
>> I confess. I have done nothing but tell the truth about the vile
> criminals
>> and terrorists of rsa.
>> Hey, asshole?
>> Wanna try and shut my face for me?
>> Typical coward.
>
> It seems that someone left the gate open to the schmuck pen
> tonight.

Why don't you try and shut my face for me, typical coward?

> Hey toad, how does your crooked rabbi feel about your
> Auschwitz comment towards Olaf? Ya know that was a very
> anti-Semitic remark, especially coming from such a good and
> decent Hebrew man. lewzer!

You really are insane, asshole. What's your name? Got the balls to spew
your filth in person?
Of course not. See a shrink, wacko.

[Royal Flush]

In article >,
says...
> in article , A. B. Normal at
> wrote on 8/8/03 1:12 PM:
>
> > scottabe > wrote in
> > :
> >
> >> Nice enough that this psychpathic liar finally found it in her heart
> >> to stop lying about me. Problem is she has never retracted her lies,
> >> never admitted to smearing me and defaming me, never confessed to her
> >> participation in an ongoing campaign of criminal terrorism.
> >
> > Neiter have you fat boy, so shut your face
>
> I confess. I have done nothing but tell the truth about the vile criminals
> and terrorists of rsa.
> Hey, asshole?
> Wanna try and shut my face for me?

Anyone who does will have to answer to me. You're the best free
entertainment since . . . well, I can't remember when anyone's been so
funny.

Toto
Not in Kansas anymore

[Alan Baker]

In article >,
scottabe > wrote:

> in article , The Real Bev at
> wrote on 8/7/03 10:13 PM:
>
> > Richard Henry wrote:
> >>
> >> "The Real Bev" > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> All the raving you do won't change the fact that nobody was mentioning
> >>>> you while you were gone.
> >>>
> >>> And nobody would be mentioning him now if you could find it in your heart
> >>> to stop.
> >>
> >> Come on, Bev. I was wondering how long this would go on. Kind of like
> >> watching a tennis game with 2 balls in play.
> >
> > NO balls in play.
>
> Your friend Henry certainly has no balls, Ashley. None of your fellow
> terrorists do, nor do you. Remember when Bev Ashley stated that I deserved
> to be physically assaulted for telling the truth?

Nope. Got a reference? Thought not.

> Doing that would take balls. Cowards like Bev Ashley and her buddies would
> rather spew their filth from the safety of their computers.
>

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

[Cramden]

Holy smokes, I've been away for almost a year and this perplexed
imbecile is still arguing, accusing and cussing at the whole world. My god
man, get a grip. Moral and ethical people do not engage in such trifle.
Let it alone and get on with your ethical standards that you so persistently
and loudly announce while at the same time calling the unethical types such
names as assholes and ****s. I have never heard of, or seen a man become so
distraught that he freely used the word **** and called himself moral and
ethical in the same sentence. This is Usenet, and you've managed to attract
every nameless pugnacious pugilist who cares to respond and pitifully poke
at your all encompassing tirades. If you are not resolving conflicts face
to face with your asinine nemeses, then you are simply proving a severe
indignation that resists all plausible reasoning and degenerates any
rational man into a mumbling fumbling fool who is no better off than the
asinine ones that he so adamantly despises.

Ralph


"scottabe" > wrote in message
...
> in article , A. B. Normal
at
> wrote on 8/8/03 1:12 PM:
>
> > scottabe > wrote in
> > :
> >
> >> Nice enough that this psychpathic liar finally found it in her heart
> >> to stop lying about me. Problem is she has never retracted her lies,
> >> never admitted to smearing me and defaming me, never confessed to her
> >> participation in an ongoing campaign of criminal terrorism.
> >
> > Neiter have you fat boy, so shut your face
>
> I confess. I have done nothing but tell the truth about the vile criminals
> and terrorists of rsa.
> Hey, asshole?
> Wanna try and shut my face for me?
> Typical coward.
>

[Sue]

In message >, Cramden
> writes
> Holy smokes, I've been away for almost a year and this perplexed
>imbecile is still arguing, accusing and cussing at the whole world. My god
>man, get a grip. Moral and ethical people do not engage in such trifle.
<snip>
>If you are not resolving conflicts face
>to face with your asinine nemeses, then you are simply proving a severe
>indignation that resists all plausible reasoning and degenerates any
>rational man into a mumbling fumbling fool who is no better off than the
>asinine ones that he so adamantly despises.
>

There's no conflict between Scott and his fan club, they all need the
same thing: to keep on like this forever. They're blinkered because
they want to be: it's a distraction from the reality of their social
lives, or lack of them.
They can fantasise that if they could force their opponents to stop
posting, then somehow everything would be better for them. And since it
won't happen, this won't be put to a test it'd surely fail.

I don't agree the Argument attracts people from all over Usenet, it
isn't interesting enough for that. Now and then someone from outside
comes and chips in, but they soon get bored and go away again. Though
it's true that if Scott walked out the others'd have to find another
Argument elsewhere, rather than accept that nothing else has changed for
them.

So: why not killfile them and post about something cold and preferably
fluffy? At this time of year, fantasy frost is OK, in fact many of us
are grateful even for that!
--
Sue ]3(:)

Looking through last year's pictures...

[scottabe]

in article , Sue at
wrote on 8/9/03 3:16 AM:

> In message >, Cramden
> > writes
>> Holy smokes, I've been away for almost a year and this perplexed
>> imbecile is still arguing, accusing and cussing at the whole world. My god
>> man, get a grip. Moral and ethical people do not engage in such trifle.
> <snip>
>> If you are not resolving conflicts face
>> to face with your asinine nemeses, then you are simply proving a severe
>> indignation that resists all plausible reasoning and degenerates any
>> rational man into a mumbling fumbling fool who is no better off than the
>> asinine ones that he so adamantly despises.
>>
>
> There's no conflict between Scott and his fan club, they all need the
> same thing: to keep on like this forever. They're blinkered because
> they want to be: it's a distraction from the reality of their social
> lives, or lack of them.
> They can fantasise that if they could force their opponents to stop
> posting, then somehow everything would be better for them. And since it
> won't happen, this won't be put to a test it'd surely fail.
>
> I don't agree the Argument attracts people from all over Usenet, it
> isn't interesting enough for that. Now and then someone from outside
> comes and chips in, but they soon get bored and go away again. Though
> it's true that if Scott walked out the others'd have to find another
> Argument elsewhere, rather than accept that nothing else has changed for
> them.
>
> So: why not killfile them and post about something cold and preferably
> fluffy? At this time of year, fantasy frost is OK, in fact many of us
> are grateful even for that!

Lot more complex than that, you asshole ****. I like that phrase. I like
the fact that this sick bitch does not and never has objected to death
threats and false accusations of molesting children.

[scottabe]

in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.7e1c27a1eae11131970e7e96a42afc1e@1060 428041.cotse.net,
CurtisLemay at wrote on 8/9/03 4:20 AM:

> sponge bob dirty pants wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Why don't you try and shut my face for me, typical coward?
>
> Is that the line du jour?
>
>
>
>>> Hey toad, how does your crooked rabbi feel about your
>>> Auschwitz comment towards Olaf? Ya know that was a very
>>> anti-Semitic remark, especially coming from such a good and
>>> decent Hebrew man. lewzer!
>>
>> You really are insane, asshole. What's your name? Got the
> balls to spew
>> your filth in person?
>> Of course not. See a shrink, wacko.
>
> I'm insane? I didn't make the remark about sending people back to
> Auschwitz, **** face, while claiming to practice the Hebrew faith. In
> addition, my spiritual leader is not a self-confessed embezzler, like
> yours. I'm insane?

You really are insane. Lie and Lie and Lie.
>
> By the way, I don't need to spew the truth in person when it's so
> much more efficient to do it here.

No balls. Total coward. A psychopathic internet stalking spewing filth
from the safety of his computer. Anytime, bitch.

[jvwalker51]

On 8/9/03 11:18 AM, in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.7c4a7918cad4d7b3cba870cfbe5441ef@1060 442327.cotse.net,
"CurtisLemay" > wrote:

> Madam Mao the Mad Cow wrote:
>
>
> <snip>
>> So: why not killfile them and post about something cold and
> preferably
>> fluffy? At this time of year, fantasy frost is OK, in fact many of us
>> are grateful even for that!
>
> Posting on topic? Gee, Twotsky, when's the last time you did that?
> Fortunately, most of us can see through your bull**** of trying to
> dictate as to what goes on here. It can be off-topic if YOU get to
> pick the topic. It can be a stupid/ignorant/rude comment as long
> as YOU get to make it. You just a female(and I use the term very
> loosely) Abraham who wants attention as much as he does.
> We've got one, we don't need another. What a Schmuck!
>

Her stupid post reads like Schattie's infamous tome. Gawd, that's all we
need.

[scottabe]

in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.7c4a7918cad4d7b3cba870cfbe5441ef@1060 442327.cotse.net,
CurtisLemay at wrote on 8/9/03 8:18 AM:

> Madam Mao the Mad Cow wrote:
>
>
> <snip>
>> So: why not killfile them and post about something cold and
> preferably
>> fluffy? At this time of year, fantasy frost is OK, in fact many of us
>> are grateful even for that!
>
> Posting on topic? Gee, Twotsky, when's the last time you did that?
> Fortunately, most of us can see through your bull**** of trying to
> dictate as to what goes on here. It can be off-topic if YOU get to
> pick the topic. It can be a stupid/ignorant/rude comment as long
> as YOU get to make it. You just a female(and I use the term very
> loosely) Abraham who wants attention as much as he does.
> We've got one, we don't need another. What a Schmuck!
>


She's not a female Abraham. She has no apparent moral or ethical standards,
no decency, no honor. But she does have a personal internet wacko fixating
on her and defaming from the safety of his computer, so I guess the bitch
and I do have something in common.

[Cramden]

"scottabe" > wrote in message
...
> in article , Cramden at
> wrote on 8/9/03 12:51 AM:
>
> > Holy smokes, I've been away for almost a year and this perplexed
> > imbecile is still arguing, accusing and cussing at the whole world.
>
> Holy smokes, another anonymous asshole who has no criticism of death
> threats, gross defamations, and criminal terrorism but has the gall to
> criticize me.

Go ahead and threaten me with death, accuse me of child molestation,
rape, gross defamations and criminal terrorism. Go ahead Mr. Abrahams. I
will inturn show you exactly how to deal with such accusations and you will
finally be set free of your endless diatribe of self professed victimized
predicament that you seem so obsessed with to the extent that you compromise
your own ethics and morals in order to exact vengence and justice for all?
I am about to reveal to you how to put an end to this ongoing injustice that
impugns your delicate character and scars the utmost integrity that you
accordingly conduct your very existence by.

Ralph,
(I willingly accept the name of asshole **** from an honest man who states
such without malice or bitterness.) Dali Lama

you've managed to attract
> > every nameless pugnacious pugilist who cares to respond and pitifully
poke
> > at your all encompassing tirades.
>
> Like I attracted you, eh?

The only truely attentive reply you accurately flung me with. Touche'

[scottabe]

Stalk, stalk, stalk, lie, lie, lie. Clue time. Whole story sure wasn't
told. In the end, the people who lied about him are going to pay bigtime.

in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.827ee50122235f4afbba526ab0d1e148@1060 450832.cotse.net,
CurtisLemay at wrote on 8/9/03 10:40 AM:

> sponge bob dirty pants wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> And you used him as a character reference. Birds of a feather,
> right.
>
> http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vor
> tex/display?slug=starr23m&date=20020523
>
> Now that we got that straightened out. Who's the liar? It's you,
> syphilis breath.

Excuse me? What did I lie about, syphilis brain? More defamations, more
lies from a true wacko. See a shrink, nutcase.
BTW, what's YOUR name so I can talk to some of your character references?
You know, the same way you stalked me to my rabbi and told him I had
molested children? Fair is fair, right, criminal?

[scottabe]

in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.6fbc286ffb760cf35ce8c4090d88783a@1060 453916.cotse.net,
CurtisLemay at wrote on 8/9/03 11:31 AM:

> sponge bob dirty pants wrote:
>
>
>>
>> She's not a female Abraham. She has no apparent moral or
> ethical standards,
>> no decency, no honor.
>
> Sounds just like you
>
> But she does have a personal internet wacko fixating
>> on her and defaming from the safety of his computer, so I guess
> the bitch
>> and I do have something in common.
>
> Care to take a guess, bob.
>
> She's stupid like you
> She's abusive and rude (in her own fashion) like you.
> Somewhere along the line she figured she would inflict herself on
> us - just like you.
> a parasite of hard-working people-like you.
> totally and completely self-centered - a pair of egotists like you two
> morons in one place is truly amazing.
> doesn't know the truth/deliberately tries to hide it - like you
>
> ****, I bet she has a bent melon head just like yours.
>
> and you wonder why I like you assholes so much.
>
>
Shrink. Shrink. Get help.

[scottabe]

in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.a9d7941bfcbde333f08a7e34c403ef87@1060 450401.cotse.net,
CurtisLemay at wrote on 8/9/03 10:33 AM:

> sponge bob dirty pants fibbed:
>
> You posted the following snip on 7-18-03 on the thread
> Re:Richard Henry, Psychopath:
>
> word for word:
>
>
> Not from my point of view. From my point of view, you have the
> morals,
> ethics, and decency of a concentration camp guard.
>>
>> It is definately not ethical, moral or decent to disrupt this NG for
>> 5+ years, with ranting, raving and circular reasoning.
>
> Oh, you mean it is not ethical, moral, or decent to object to
> terrorism, to
> tell the truth about gross criminal actions and real life crimes, to
> speak
> honesty and with morals and ethics?
>
>> This means that I am decent ethical and moral and you are not.
>
> It means you are insane.
>
>> You would understand these truths if you were.
>
> See a shrink. You're delusional.
>
>> I truly hope you find some ethics, morals & decency before
> another
>> decade passes. I am an ethical, patient, moral person besides
> being a
>> good & decent man , I will wait.
>
> You're utter scum, without any moral or ethical standards.
> Hey, scumbag? Answer me this. Thousands of posts falsely
> accusing innocent
> men of molesting children, and not a word from you. By your
> insane "moral
> and ethical standards", objecting to such vileness is amoral, but
> committing
> such vileness is moral.
> Go back to Auschwitz, you belong there.
>
> Now excuse me while I find the newspaper articles about your
> rabbi friend. What a **** Face!
>


Uh, duh. What lies, scumbag? You're delusional. Get ****ed again.

[Cramden]

"scottabe" > wrote in message
...
> > Ralph,
> > (I willingly accept the name of asshole **** from an honest man who
states
> > such without malice or bitterness.) Dali Lama
>
> The Dalai Lama would think you are an asshole ****, too.

Maybe, but without malice or bitterness. Let the love and kindness within
you reflect every facet of your life.

[scottabe]

in article , Cramden at
wrote on 8/9/03 12:51 PM:

>
> "scottabe" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> Ralph,
>>> (I willingly accept the name of asshole **** from an honest man who
> states
>>> such without malice or bitterness.) Dali Lama
>>
>> The Dalai Lama would think you are an asshole ****, too.
>
> Maybe, but without malice or bitterness. Let the love and kindness within
> you reflect every facet of your life.
>
>
I am neither loving or kind to pathological liars who vent their anger on
the net.
**** off, grasshopper.

[Cramden]

"scottabe" > wrote in message
...
> in article , Cramden at
> wrote on 8/9/03 12:51 PM:
>
> >
> > "scottabe" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>> Ralph,
> >>> (I willingly accept the name of asshole **** from an honest man who
> > states
> >>> such without malice or bitterness.) Dali Lama
> >>
> >> The Dalai Lama would think you are an asshole ****, too.
> >
> > Maybe, but without malice or bitterness. Let the love and kindness
within
> > you reflect every facet of your life.
> >
> >
> I am neither loving or kind > **** off, grasshopper.

Yes master

[scottabe]

in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.c5e283b04ba74be949ab097a2b053db8@1060 464959.cotse.net,
CurtisLemay at wrote on 8/9/03 2:35 PM:

> sponge bob dirty pants wrote:
>
>
>> Excuse me? What did I lie about, syphilis brain?
> bob, you really are a stupid sack of ****. There's no point in
> rehashing this thread but you accused me of lying about the
> Auschwitz comment and your connection to a self-confessed
> embezzeling rabbi, I clearly and demonstrably proved that you
> were the liar.

You did lie, you insane ****. He never confessed to embezzling anything,
you sick ****. And I did not offer to put any of you sick ****s into
Auschwitz, you sick ****.
>
> The funny thing about you is that even when actually caught with
> your pants around your ankles you deny exposing your pecker.
> One has got to believe that you are seriously brain-damaged from
> your chemically induced personality from the past.

You really are delusional, wacko.
>
> By the way, besides these lies, I never contacted your rabbi about
> anything. I don't consort with real criminals. Maybe this obsession
> of yours about children is something that needs to be examined.
> You might be a serious menace to society.
>
You truly are a vile little ****. Here's a promise. Come visit. You'll
never lie about me again.

[pigo]

"CurtisLemay" > wrote in message
news:cGhhdHBoaWw=.6fbc286ffb760cf35ce8c4090d88783a @1060453916.cotse.net.
...

>
> She's stupid like you
> She's abusive and rude (in her own fashion) like you.
> Somewhere along the line she figured she would inflict herself on
> us - just like you.
> a parasite of hard-working people-like you.
> totally and completely self-centered - a pair of egotists like you two
> morons in one place is truly amazing.
> doesn't know the truth/deliberately tries to hide it - like you
>
> ****, I bet she has a bent melon head just like yours.
>
> and you wonder why I like you assholes so much.

But does she have an asshole you could drive a truck through?

[WWFiv]

On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 09:59:21 -0700, scottabe >
wrote:

>She's not a female Abraham. She has no apparent moral or ethical standards,
>no decency, no honor. But she does have a personal internet wacko fixating
>on her and defaming from the safety of his computer, <snip>.
>
You shouldn't be doing that to her, Scott.
--
Regards,
Wally Farley (WWFiv)

[Royal Flush]

In article >,
says...
> Shrink. Shrink. Get help.
>
>
Sorry, we can't find one who will take you.

Toto
Not in Kansas anymore

[scottabe]

in article , pigo at
wrote on 8/9/03 6:58 PM:

>
> "CurtisLemay" > wrote in message
> news:cGhhdHBoaWw=.6fbc286ffb760cf35ce8c4090d88783a @1060453916.cotse.net.
> ..
>
>>
>> She's stupid like you
>> She's abusive and rude (in her own fashion) like you.
>> Somewhere along the line she figured she would inflict herself on
>> us - just like you.
>> a parasite of hard-working people-like you.
>> totally and completely self-centered - a pair of egotists like you two
>> morons in one place is truly amazing.
>> doesn't know the truth/deliberately tries to hide it - like you
>>
>> ****, I bet she has a bent melon head just like yours.
>>
>> and you wonder why I like you assholes so much.
>
> But does she have an asshole you could drive a truck through?
>
>
Hey, Thompson?
I'm gonna be in Utah in about three weeks. Want to taunt me in person about
how I was raped as a chiold?
C'mon, Bob. You're a big man, ain't you? No cops, no back-up, just you and
your big mouth and me.
Fair enough? Name the time and the place, coward.

[scottabe]

in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.0e556f7d6961e2f060a5b8139eebccff@1060 522759.cotse.net,
CurtisLemay at wrote on 8/10/03 6:39 AM:

> sponge bob dirty pants wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>
>> You truly are a vile little ****.
> Tank You Berry Much
>
> Here's a promise. Come visit. You'll
>> never lie about me again.
>
> Ya know bob, between your pathetic and pathelogical lying and
> your continual threats of violence, it's kinda hard to prove you're a
> good and decent man. But don't get your pecker all twisted up, it
> ain't ever gonna happen. It's just necessary to periodically show
> what an impotent little ****er you are.

Impotent little ****ers spew filth from anonymity, coward.
>
> One other thing, bob, between the two of us, YOU'RE always that
> brings up the child molestation thing. It's like you have a guilty
> conscience or something.

Do YOU want a vile little **** like this psychopath stalking YOU?

[scottabe]

in article
cGhhdHBoaWw=.8a7cd81b9921cca9ac34921fdf1a3ed6@1060 506389.cotse.net,
CurtisLemay at wrote on 8/10/03 2:06 AM:

> sponge bob dirty pants wrote:
>
>
> <snip>
>
> What's the difference between admitting and confessing? If you
> take money that doesn't belong to you and spend it, that's stealing.

Keep lying.
>
> You said, "Go back to Auschwitz" That's a very anti-Semitic thing to
> say especially for someone who claims to practice the Hebrew
> faith. I suspect your religious conversion is as much of a fraud as
> you are.

That's anti-semitic? You are insane. Go back to Auschwitz. You'd make a
great concentration camp guard.
>
> Liar, liar, pants on fire and anyone can now look it up, **** face.
>

Wacko, Wacko, pants on fire and anybody can look it up, dumb****.