Chester Bullock
November 4th 03, 02:42 PM
I just received the following from Jen Hartley, of the marketing
department at Copper. My original post to their bulletin board follows
her comment. If you go to their bulletin board, you will notice that
during the sign up process you are not presented with any sort of Terms
of Service in which they outline the policy regarding posting links to
other sites. Further proof they still don't get it.
Jen can be contacted at and their bulletin
board can be seen at http://www.coppercolorado.com/winter/mountain/bb/
It does not appear that you have to have Flash running to access the bb.
> Jen Hartley (C) wrote:
>
>
> Chester,
> I've removed your post from the forum. No links or self-promotion
> allowed.
>
> Jen
>
>
>
>
>
> Hate to sound vain, but Copper stopped understanding the web once they
> moved control of the website from the IT department to the marketing
> department. When we were editing content, there was at least some sort
> of reason to the process. About a year after I left the company,
> marketing took over, and that is when the nonsense with Flash began.
> People used to come to Copper's site to get the information they
> wanted because it was easy to find. Now you have to jump through a
> bunch of hoops like a circus dog, and still may not find what you are
> looking for. I love to ski Copper, but have always been honest with
> people when it comes to the place. The parking sucks, and this website
> really misses it's mark. Kudos to madurai for pointing out the obvious
> problems of Flash, and the not so obvious ones like usability.
> Guessing this person follows the conversations at zeldman.com, a site
> we (as web designers) can all learn a great deal from. I just got
> going in standards, but am now evangelizing that just like I
> evangelized the Web to Copper in 1994-95. My site doesn't reflect it
> yet, as I have been busy moving clients to W3C compliance. But if you
> need snow reports or mountain cams, take a look at
> http://www.black-diamond.com - and if you want an honest assessment of
> conditions in Colorado, just email me.
>
>
> - Chester Bullock
> Original Web Guy for Copper Mountain
--
Chester Bullock,
Ethical, custom website hosting, design and programming
Tenxible Solutions, http://www.tenxible.com
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AIM: tenxible YahooIM: ccb247
department at Copper. My original post to their bulletin board follows
her comment. If you go to their bulletin board, you will notice that
during the sign up process you are not presented with any sort of Terms
of Service in which they outline the policy regarding posting links to
other sites. Further proof they still don't get it.
Jen can be contacted at and their bulletin
board can be seen at http://www.coppercolorado.com/winter/mountain/bb/
It does not appear that you have to have Flash running to access the bb.
> Jen Hartley (C) wrote:
>
>
> Chester,
> I've removed your post from the forum. No links or self-promotion
> allowed.
>
> Jen
>
>
>
>
>
> Hate to sound vain, but Copper stopped understanding the web once they
> moved control of the website from the IT department to the marketing
> department. When we were editing content, there was at least some sort
> of reason to the process. About a year after I left the company,
> marketing took over, and that is when the nonsense with Flash began.
> People used to come to Copper's site to get the information they
> wanted because it was easy to find. Now you have to jump through a
> bunch of hoops like a circus dog, and still may not find what you are
> looking for. I love to ski Copper, but have always been honest with
> people when it comes to the place. The parking sucks, and this website
> really misses it's mark. Kudos to madurai for pointing out the obvious
> problems of Flash, and the not so obvious ones like usability.
> Guessing this person follows the conversations at zeldman.com, a site
> we (as web designers) can all learn a great deal from. I just got
> going in standards, but am now evangelizing that just like I
> evangelized the Web to Copper in 1994-95. My site doesn't reflect it
> yet, as I have been busy moving clients to W3C compliance. But if you
> need snow reports or mountain cams, take a look at
> http://www.black-diamond.com - and if you want an honest assessment of
> conditions in Colorado, just email me.
>
>
> - Chester Bullock
> Original Web Guy for Copper Mountain
--
Chester Bullock,
Ethical, custom website hosting, design and programming
Tenxible Solutions, http://www.tenxible.com
Web Based Autoresponder and DRIP system, http://www.toolsre.com
AIM: tenxible YahooIM: ccb247